Old 05-02-2016, 12:02 AM   #1
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Sounds like this photo is hopeless

Not a big deal, but I am just wondering what makes it so bad that nothing can fix it and don't even try to upload it again...and yet this other photo of the same train was accepted:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=401761&nseq=0

The blue haze in the B unit photo is the exhaust from the leading unit as the hogger throttled up leaving town.

The other B units shots I posted seemed to interest a few viewers though.

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Old 05-02-2016, 12:34 AM   #2
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...95&key=2165215

Sounds like this photo is hopeless

Not a big deal, but I am just wondering what makes it so bad that nothing can fix it and don't even try to upload it again...and yet this other photo of the same train was accepted:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=401761&nseq=0

The blue haze in the B unit photo is the exhaust from the leading unit as the hogger throttled up leaving town.

The other B units shots I posted seemed to interest a few viewers though.

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Look at the lead unit and especially the foliage at lower left in the B unit shot- blurry.
The accepted shot has some left edge issues as well.
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- all the smoky areas just look bad - I get it, it's exhaust, but it just doesn't look like good image quality. That it covers the air rather than being seen as emanating from a source is off-putting, it loses its context.

- you have the tops of buildings really awkwardly cut off - need to show more, or nothing

- you have a nasty black speck on the slide upper right - clone that out
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Seemingly I don't recall too many details but I have the same oil seal building in the photo so we must have been standing pretty close to the same spot, you farther east.
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My understanding is the connection construction from the south to the St. Charles Air Line came between your photo and mine(time wise).

I also have a later version of City of New Orleans covered in blue smoke.
You done real well with the "B" unit shots so this should do OK also.
Only cause you asked, I'd crop top and left, to get rid of the partial sign(as noted, in or out) and some of the out of focus weeds and unit.
As noted there is the spot, also some stuff in both corners so some noise reduction or other work on that and some will go with the crop.

It can be a little frustrating, judging photos we took a long time ago as kids
when we had little time, little money, a job and school, no internet to learn all this neat photo stuff, no forum to tell us what we should do, using what is now antique equipment and Oh OH , the weeds are out of focus.

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To me, first shot: wow, an E8B... ok, what is this a photo of again other than a passenger train in a yard?
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To me, first shot: wow, an E8B... ok, what is this a photo of again other than a passenger train in a yard?
Delete - Not going to bother.
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It's not really fair to judge photos from half a century ago to the same standards of today. The first photos doesn't do anything for me but only because of composition. The second one has a few issues, but does give a sense of time and place. In that regard it succeeds.


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To me, first shot: wow, an E8B... ok, what is this a photo of again other than a passenger train in a yard?
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To me, first shot: wow, an E8B... ok, what is this a photo of again other than a passenger train in a yard?
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Here you go, just another train in the yard. I'd guess the overhead shot is even more interesting to modelers. Lots of different interests????

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Here you go, just another train in the yard. I'd guess the overhead shot is even more interesting to modelers. Lots of different interests????

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Yes, that front-coupled ATSF B-unit was accepted.
But this much more rare (1 of only 35) RSC-13 was not:
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Yes, that front-coupled ATSF B-unit was accepted.

Kind of strange that they accepted the B-unit with 3/4 of another B-unit.

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But this much more rare (1 of only 35) RSC-13 was not:
Had you shot it from the other end, an almost certain dark nose rejection would have come your way.

Early in my posting, I submitted an uncoupled rear view of an M-K demonstrator that was nose-coupled into other units and got a nose-coupled rejection. I wonder what the response would have been had the unit been by itself, since the other units in no way obstructed the view of the MK unit.

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I was pointing out "B" units seem to be in.

You could say the Santa Fe is front coupled from the view, or rear coupled with a forward facing view. Smile.
Somewhere I saw discussion whether B's had "F" designation.

Seemingly cropping out most of the partial unit might make it a better photo but for those interested in that type of thing would excluding something of interest.

I guess my point was that while I may not have a big interest in a "B" unit in the yard but others seemingly do. As far as the RSC, I don't know why not accepted, I thing the rule references common power.
I had a Frisco photo from 90 degrees so although it was front coupled the view was complete but a door was open sooo..

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Here you go, just another train in the yard. I'd guess the overhead shot is even more interesting to modelers. Lots of different interests????

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Since you are asking, that does absolutely nothing for me either... the composition is lacking, it's a decent enough roster shot of 1 unit, ok. I don't think that's what this site is all about. Maybe locophotos.net for that stuff...
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It's not really fair to judge photos from half a century ago to the same standards of today. The first photos doesn't do anything for me but only because of composition. The second one has a few issues, but does give a sense of time and place. In that regard it succeeds.


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I absolutely believe you CAN judge them from a pure compositional standpoint. Sure the technical quality and other merits from 50 years ago with the equipment they had to deal with, I would give a HUGE leeway on that. But a cut off pic of a B unit in the middle of the yard, sorry doesn't really move me

It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with me, I am entitled to it though. Obviously at least 1 screener agreed with me (odd, isnt it?)
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I absolutely believe you CAN judge them from a pure compositional standpoint. Sure the technical quality and other merits from 50 years ago with the equipment they had to deal with, I would give a HUGE leeway on that. But a cut off pic of a B unit in the middle of the yard, sorry doesn't really move me

It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with me, I am entitled to it though. Obviously at least 1 screener agreed with me (odd, isnt it?)
I would note your original comment which is what I was replying to:

"To me, first shot: wow, an E8B... ok, what is this a photo of again other than a passenger train in a yard? "

Besides being incorrect I didn't think it had to phrased like that any more than the crummy foreign comment someone else made.

That is my opinion. We can agree people can be too sensitive but I would also note the difference between criticism and sarcasm and how people react. It wasn't my photo but.......

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Had you shot it from the other end, an almost certain dark nose rejection would have come your way.
Imaginary conversation over this rejection:

Them: "No light on the nose"
Me: "But that's not the nose."
Them: "Well, then it's going away and front-coupled."


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Imaginary conversation over this rejection:

Them: "No light on the nose"
Me: "But that's not the nose."
Them: "Well, then it's going away and front-coupled."


The motto of that story is some you can't win. I did look at 125 today, sun on the nose(or flash) is almost unanimous(snow and steam exceptions). I did note around 20 from a China steam mine and around 10 in a row. How do you do that??? Middle of the night?

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