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The bottom left foreground is WAY too hot and quite distracting. Gotta tone that down a bit, man.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:13 PM   #427
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What about a large CSX yard sign?

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Old 12-12-2017, 09:47 PM   #428
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What about a large CSX yard sign?

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Now that you mention it, I do recall this incident. What I don't recall are the details. Did someone steal your photo from an RP-size image and make that big sign? I'll bet it looks great up close

I guess I was just relating my personal experience with book, magazine and calendar publishers. None of them will take an RP-size image. Perhaps their requirement for more resolution is more out of a need for proof that the photographer really does own the image, than a need for more resolution. A small photo in "Trains" or "Railfan & Railroad" could probably get away with an RP-size image, but a sign like the one in your picture would probably look pretty awful unless a higher-resolution image was used.

So what became of that incident? Were you able to find the culprit and get some satisfaction or payment? Inquiring minds want to know. The problem with the US Copyright Laws is that you pretty much have to enforce them yourself. There are no copyright cops to call. I suspect that most petty photo thieves know that unless they really score a big pay-day on a stolen image, it is probably not worth the photographer's time or money to pursue a legal recourse. Most train mags don't even pay $100 for an image unless it's a gate-fold or something like that. Some don't offer anything but a photo credit. Even the better publishers are paying less and less every year.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:09 AM   #429
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and the noise...

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The location is close. One of these days I'll go back and shoot with my D800E, and use 13 ft. stands instead of my lightweight 8 footers. Would like to catch it with snow coming down too.


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Old 12-13-2017, 02:20 PM   #430
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I remember this. Interesting that the word "integrity" appears on it. Did you ever get any satisfaction?
Never followed up on it.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:24 PM   #431
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Now that you mention it, I do recall this incident. What I don't recall are the details. Did someone steal your photo from an RP-size image and make that big sign? I'll bet it looks great up close
Definitely "stolen" from RP. I was never contacted to use the image, so it can only be a print from the 1024 x 683 image on RP.

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Never followed up on it.
tisk tisk.

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Old 12-14-2017, 12:36 AM   #433
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tisk tisk.

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Lazy and unmotivated...just as I am to upload train pics. haha
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That's me! No desire to submit here, to magazines, facebook, etc... I'm selfish with my photography

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Old 12-14-2017, 06:26 AM   #435
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Well I see why you're sticking up for Burkholder now..

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Old 12-20-2017, 02:49 AM   #436
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Am I the only one who thinks it's in particularly poor taste for the website to be profitting off the deaths of others... there's no way I would even take a pic of, let alone submit a picture of an accident where so many people died and were seriously injured...

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Old 12-20-2017, 04:44 AM   #437
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2 of the people that died were Pacific Northwest railfans, as well. But, views are everything, I guess. Plenty of news outlets covered this accident with lots of photos, that it really didn't need to be here.
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Very violent-looking wreck. I can't imagine what it must be like to leave the rails at 80 mph. As I noted in my comment on Steve's photo, I really think that seatbelts would make a lot of sense on high speed trains. A lot of serious injuries could be prevented if only the occupants were secured to the frames of the cars they were riding in.
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Old 12-20-2017, 10:11 AM   #439
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A lot of serious injuries could be prevented if only the occupants were secured to the frames of the cars they were riding in.
And a lot of serious injuries could be prevented if only PTC installation doesn't get yet another time extension.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:52 PM   #440
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If you look at his other posts, he has covered this area on this site and others a lot. Not like he just jumped on this accident for a photo.

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Am I the only one who thinks it's in particularly poor taste for the website to be profitting off the deaths of others
Death, destruction, injury, pain, etc. are the driving forces for all media. I see nothing wrong with the photo being here.

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Old 12-20-2017, 03:00 PM   #442
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Death, destruction, injury, pain, etc. are the driving forces for all media. I see nothing wrong with the photo being here.

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Have to agree, I too see nothing wrong with the photo being here on RailPictures.Net. I thought the photographer gave an exceptionally good explanation in his account of the derailment in his photo comment as well.
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;193002][/center]A lot of serious injuries could be prevented if only the occupants were secured to the frames of the cars they were riding in.
A lot of serious accidents could have been prevented if the train wasn't going grossly over maximum authorized speed for the location too... there's been a lot of these in the past couple of years
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A lot of serious accidents could have been prevented if the train wasn't going grossly over maximum authorized speed for the location too... there's been a lot of these in the past couple of years
No argument. Human beings are always the weak link in mass transportation. Decades ago, the airlines had a pretty bad safety record and while there were more reliability issues with the technology, the vast majority of aircraft accidents were still being caused by human errors. Fortunately, over the years, the regulatory agencies have responded (although sometimes at a snail's pace) and things have changed. The experience and training requirements for entry-level airline pilots have been tightened considerably and airlines have placed great emphasis on Crew Resource Management training as well as realistic simulator training. Airline pilots hold hundreds of lives in their hands every time they go to work. Come to think of it, so do train crews. Perhaps it is time that the railroad industry starts to borrow some of what has been learned (through bloodshed) in the aviation business. We don't have two pilots up front in case one eats some bad fish or has a heart attack. We have two pilots to spread the workload out and to cross-check what each one does. I think the idea of having one person all alone at the head end of an all-night, cross-country train for 8 or more hours ought to scare everybody.
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I think the idea of having one person all alone at the head end of an all-night, cross-country train for 8 or more hours ought to scare everybody.
It does!

Two in the cab is not infallible, though. Think of the head-on crashes that have occurred with two in the cab. And there are a few bad apples- over the years I've seen left-side guys sleeping, reading, or looking at porn.

With the current push for self-driving cars and trucks, how long before we see drum-beating for self-driving trains?
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With the current push for self-driving cars and trucks, how long before we see drum-beating for self-driving trains?
In effect, PTC is really step in that direction. I don't know that I'm in favor of self-driving anything. Technology is great, but it is only as good as the folks who created it, and they are all human too. I do think that the airlines do a great job with safety these days. Quick....when was the last time a large airliner fell out of the sky here in the US, with massive loss of life? It's been a while.

Strict experience requirements, realistic training in normal and emergency procedures, good cockpit discipline and wise use of technology are the keys to safety. The airlines have rules about distractions....for instance, the Sterile Cockpit Rule. Below 10,000 ft., airline pilots are not allowed to discuss anything except the flying tasks at hand. And, they've got the CVR listening to their every statement, just to make sure. They also are subject to no-notice checkrides, both by their airlines and by FAA Operations Inspectors. Bust one of those rides and they're suspended. Bust more than one and they could be in the unemployment line. And every 6 months, they go for recurrent simulator training, to practice emergencies that would be dangerous to simulate in a real airplane.

On an inaugural run like the one earlier this week, I would have thought that Amtrak would have had multiple, very experienced hoggers up front in that locomotive. We'll see what the NTSB says about what did happen.
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In effect, PTC is really step in that direction. I don't know that I'm in favor of self-driving anything. Technology is great, but it is only as good as the folks who created it, and they are all human too. I do think that the airlines do a great job with safety these days. Quick....when was the last time a large airliner fell out of the sky here in the US, with massive loss of life? It's been a while.

Strict experience requirements, realistic training in normal and emergency procedures, good cockpit discipline and wise use of technology are the keys to safety. The airlines have rules about distractions....for instance, the Sterile Cockpit Rule. Below 10,000 ft., airline pilots are not allowed to discuss anything except the flying tasks at hand. And, they've got the CVR listening to their every statement, just to make sure. They also are subject to no-notice checkrides, both by their airlines and by FAA Operations Inspectors. Bust one of those rides and they're suspended. Bust more than one and they could be in the unemployment line. And every 6 months, they go for recurrent simulator training, to practice emergencies that would be dangerous to simulate in a real airplane.

On an inaugural run like the one earlier this week, I would have thought that Amtrak would have had multiple, very experienced hoggers up front in that locomotive. We'll see what the NTSB says about what did happen.
Self-flying helicopters are a reality. It was on one of the evening newscasts a few days ago. Not a drone being flown remotely, it was actually flying itself (with just an observer on board).
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Seems the forums have been pretty quiet with the holidays approaching, but holy unlevel:

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Old 12-24-2017, 05:26 PM   #449
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There are some better versions in the DB, this one also go a little close to the edge.

Laughing, I ran it through the RAW leveler which usually works well but in this case it leveled based on the bridge supports. Technology limits.

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Old 12-27-2017, 02:34 PM   #450
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I come back after a wonderful Christmas holiday to find that purple snow is now cool with the RP screeners.

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