Old 02-23-2008, 05:47 PM   #1
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What do you think of this photo. I thought it shows another side to railroads.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=350681209

here are my last 2 - what do you think? whick one is your favorite?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=171430242

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=486910&key=0

the lastest
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=487495&key=0

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Old 02-23-2008, 06:00 PM   #2
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Missing the human interest element I think. Get an employee or two standing there watching over the process, or even the smear effect as he/she moves about the engine and the truck, and you'd have a winner.

Of course, that's only my opinions.
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That was my first thought as well.
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I have one in the queue from a different angle with some steam. I do have a couple with a worker in it I will try. The one pic he opened the truck door during the exposure which make it look like a blurry spot on the truck and that is why I didn't use that one first. The other are uninteresting but thank you for the input. Travis Dewitz
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If a plain ol sign can get in then this should have! But it's a going away shot maybe? Cool shot all the same.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:43 PM   #6
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I like this shot a lot. Maybe the others you have are better, maybe not, but juding from this shot alone, I think it could be appealed. But then again, don't trust my word. I'm the one who shotthe plain old sign, so what do I know?




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Old 02-23-2008, 10:23 PM   #7
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I think it's very well done. But it's one of those either-they'll-love-it-or-they-won't shots that are a crap shoot in terms of getting into the database. The few I've submitted like that have all ended up in the reject pile.
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:28 PM   #8
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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=486910&key=0

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=171430242

here is my other photo but the screener that it was the same as the first?

which one is better?

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Old 02-23-2008, 11:25 PM   #9
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I like 'em a lot. I think that the one with the guy there should have the best chance. I think they're very well executed. For cropping, at most you might need to chop a little bit off of the right side, maybe to the fuel hose, but that honestly might not make a difference.

I'm not sure how you could appeal this one, but I think it is an excellent railroad shot that characterizes the 24/7 operations of the railroad and its contractors.

I'll be sad to see this shot not get in.
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I'm the one who shot the plain old sign, so what do I know?
Obviously more than we do!
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The first is very obviously NOT the same as the second ... but both are very good.
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I think it needs more train, or a sign if there was one! That was for Joe Seriously though I think more train or focus more on the left side and more contrast, both shots. I like the further back shot.
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I like the general idea, but I don't like the way you executed any of the shots. In all of the shots where you can actually see the fuel line hooked up to the locomotive, the fuel truck dominates the shot. And the only shot in which the locomotive has a good chunk of the shot, well, you can't see them fueling it. The human element is a definite plus, and the shot does have a lot of potential, but I think you need to work out a different angle that at least puts the train equal to the fuel truck. A front view probably would have been better (though I realize it may not have been possible at the time).

Believe me, not everything you try will work, even if it is a good idea. All you can do is go out and try again - when you finally nail the shot, it makes it worth all the while!
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I tried to get as much of the locomotive as I could but the main focus is the trucks pumps, gauges, and the as much of the hose as I could get. The side and front shots are boring since you can't see what is going on and the loss of the pump and gauge details. Also the front shot has to many light halos from the headlamps of the truck and train and the truck had a flashing light and strobe light on. Thank you for your opinions. Travis Dewitz
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:22 PM   #15
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I used one at a different angle but the storb light is a little distracting.

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Travis;

The first two versions are great, in my opinion. Either the one without the ghost or the one with. I think one or the othr should be in, but I'm no screener. I know it's frustrating as I've been fighting with the same picture not getting in for a week and a half, even though I think it shouldbe accepted. So, at the least, know we feel your pain.


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Here is another reject of this scene.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=488740&key=0

I really like this scene and can not figure out why they all keep getting rejected. I know it is a narrow behind view of the locomotive but the photos main subject is the detail of the fuel trucks pump and gauges and the fueling of the locomotive. Almost all my previous rejected photos I can look and say I can see why this was rejected or ya not my best shot I will just let it go but this shot

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=487627&key=0

is my favorite and feel strongly that it should have been accepted. The contrast gives it a feel with the moon, the shine on the fuel hose, reflection on the locomotive tank, and lights shining down in back of the truck.

Any further opinions or help on this would be great. Thanks again.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:46 PM   #18
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I like the first one. I think all it needs is a significant crop on the left (2 stanchions worth, maybe three, not sure) and a bit at the bottom for balance. All the action/weight is on the right side, and having the unlight broadside of the second unit on the left is not enough. Oh, and take a bit off the top also, not too much, but there is some excess above the moon.

Right now the worker is in sort of a "rule of fourths" position, a bit too low and too the right; get him closer to a rule of thirds location.

So just a bit more messing with the cropping! Don't give up.

The second one, don't care for it nearly as much, the "story," as emphasized by the strong lighting, is the inside of a fuel truck. The train is incidental. A nice shot, maybe (I'm not a big fan but it is OK) but not necessarily a nice RP shot. Maybe the screeners (me for sure) are just not excited about the pump and gauges.

Yes, the contrast is high, but not too bad, however, a lot of it is on the inside of the truck.
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I really like this scene and can not figure out why they all keep getting rejected...the photos main subject is the detail of the fuel trucks pump and gauges
That might be your problem!
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FWIW this one is my favorite of the three that I like.

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FWIW this one is my favorite of the three that I like.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=488740&key=0

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Looks like someone is engaging in plagiarism!
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The day finally came. Thanks much you guys! Travis Dewitz

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You can see into the locomotive's window clearly and read U.P. 4041.

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Congratulations on getting the shot in, Travis. It's really fine work and prove that sometimes, it's not just a matter of uploading the shot once and seeing what happens. Out of curiosity, Travis, did you shoot that in monochrome on the camera? Or did you convert? Also, do you shoot RAW? As I said, I'm just curious. I like to see how other people shoot.


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What do you think of this photo. I thought it shows another side to railroads.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=350681209

here are my last 2 - what do you think? whick one is your favorite?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=171430242

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=486910&key=0

the lastest
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=487495&key=0
To Dark... Sorry. Great otherwise
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