08-22-2012, 04:18 AM
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Yes and no. I used an Olympus for my job for 4.5 years. Meanwhile, for personal use, I had 350D and a 5D. Last year, my boss bought me a 60D (my request...and I paid him back) because I needed to upgrade, and now I rarely use my 5D any more. The 60D gets quite a work out between my job and personal. I'm probably pushing 80,000 shutter clicks in one year. I think the shutter is close to dying, though. Occasionally it'll "clunk" and my image will be way over exposed. I'd say that happens once every 300-400 shots.
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Are you planning on selling your 5D, preferably at a cheap price of under $100?  If so, I'll take it!
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08-22-2012, 04:29 AM
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Are you planning on selling your 5D, preferably at a cheap price of under $100?  If so, I'll take it!
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I'll take the 60D for $100! A shutter repair and good to go!
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08-22-2012, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stlgevo51
Are you planning on selling your 5D, preferably at a cheap price of under $100?  If so, I'll take it!
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Originally Posted by JRMDC
I'll take the 60D for $100! A shutter repair and good to go! 
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Man, you guys are like scavengers!  No, not planning on selling the 5D. I like having the full frame when needed. But, the frame rate of the 60D is what keeps it in my hands most of the time. The 5D is just too slow for me.
If the shutter does die on the 60D, I'll probably just get another body and then get the broken one fixed and keep it as a back up. With my job, I really can't afford to have any camera issues.
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08-22-2012, 10:27 PM
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80k in one year! What do you do?
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08-23-2012, 01:34 AM
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As for what the sky adds I really do not feel I need to prove anything else about the photo.
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So what did you prove exactly? You can sneak one by the screeners?
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08-23-2012, 01:54 AM
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I didn't need to prove anything. Let it go kids.
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08-23-2012, 01:12 PM
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80k in one year! What do you do?
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Real estate photography...usually average 3 homes a day with anywhere between 300-500 shutter actuations a day.
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08-24-2012, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JimThias
Real estate photography...usually average 3 homes a day with anywhere between 300-500 shutter actuations a day.
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Wow, do you have to pp all of those photos?
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08-24-2012, 02:25 AM
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I didn't need to prove anything. Let it go kids.
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I think someone is trolling.
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08-24-2012, 02:57 AM
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I think someone is trolling.
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It was a legit question.
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08-24-2012, 03:51 AM
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Maybe legit, but really, what will be accomplished by continuing the 'debate'? Just another debate down into the dirt, I've done it too, both sides, but at some point it is a waste of effort.
And a guy who says he has nothing to prove isn't going to be the most receptive to counter arguments to his view!
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08-24-2012, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JimThias
Real estate photography...usually average 3 homes a day with anywhere between 300-500 shutter actuations a day.
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I admit the last time I bought and sold a home was in 2001, so a bit before the digi revolution, and I think the house I sold had about 10 photos taken of it by the real estate agent and the house I bought had zero photos taken of it. So my really stupid question is what the heck are people doing with an average of over 100 photos of a house? I'd be really hard pressed to think of a hundred shots of my house and it's really well landscaped.
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08-24-2012, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Indecline
I admit the last time I bought and sold a home was in 2001, so a bit before the digi revolution, and I think the house I sold had about 10 photos taken of it by the real estate agent and the house I bought had zero photos taken of it. So my really stupid question is what the heck are people doing with an average of over 100 photos of a house? I'd be really hard pressed to think of a hundred shots of my house and it's really well landscaped.
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Jim is actually no good at his job at all and hopes for one or two "keepers" from the 100. 
I always think of something I read years ago about how Sports Illustrated photographers send tens of thousands of images back to the home office every NFL Sunday, only a handful get used in the mag.
Hmm, just found an old article about it, 8 years so maybe even more are shot now:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...id=7-6453-6821
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08-24-2012, 01:31 PM
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Wow, do you have to pp all of those photos?
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No. We have a crew dedicated to doing just that.
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Originally Posted by Indecline
I admit the last time I bought and sold a home was in 2001, so a bit before the digi revolution, and I think the house I sold had about 10 photos taken of it by the real estate agent and the house I bought had zero photos taken of it. So my really stupid question is what the heck are people doing with an average of over 100 photos of a house? I'd be really hard pressed to think of a hundred shots of my house and it's really well landscaped.
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I guess I should have elaborated a little better. Those 300-500 clicks a day are shutter actuations, not the actual number of usable photos. For an "average" sized house (2000-3000 sq.ft), I usually have a total of 25-30 photo angles (1-3 per room). I give our production people two photos of each angle (slightly different settings on each), which quickly jumps to 50-60 files per house. However, what they don't get are the "duds" that I delete after taking each photo angle. Sometimes I can walk in a room and get my two exposures of one angle in one attempt, other times it might take me 5 or more tries to get the exposure/light/composition/level exactly how I want it. There are many things I'm very particular about when composing an image of a room, so it's common that on the first couple of clicks I may miss something in the room that I have to move, and then I have to redo the shot before going on to the next room. I have to be VERY observant of things.
Here is a 9000 sq ft house I photographed the other day:
http://www.planomatic.com/12800
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08-24-2012, 01:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure that second photo is unlevel, Jim.......
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08-24-2012, 04:40 PM
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I would feel funny even setting foot in a place like that.
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08-24-2012, 09:59 PM
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I was goin gto say that if you had to PP all of them, I now see why you are the "Level King"!
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08-24-2012, 10:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure that second photo is unlevel, Jim....... 
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HA!
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Originally Posted by MagnumForce
I would feel funny even setting foot in a place like that.
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I understand what you mean, but since I've always been a really nosy person when it comes to "I wonder what's behind that door?", I love going in all kinds of houses and exploring...especially the McMansions.
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I was goin gto say that if you had to PP all of them, I now see why you are the "Level King"! 
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Fortunately for me, I upload 'em and forget about 'em. It's up to our production crew to make all the pictures look great, including leveling and wide angle distortion correction. Sometimes I'll fix a photo or two before uploading if I know a particular one needs it badly (happens often), but most of the time they take care of everything.
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08-25-2012, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JimThias
No. We have a crew dedicated to doing just that.
I guess I should have elaborated a little better. Those 300-500 clicks a day are shutter actuations, not the actual number of usable photos. For an "average" sized house (2000-3000 sq.ft), I usually have a total of 25-30 photo angles (1-3 per room). I give our production people two photos of each angle (slightly different settings on each), which quickly jumps to 50-60 files per house. However, what they don't get are the "duds" that I delete after taking each photo angle. Sometimes I can walk in a room and get my two exposures of one angle in one attempt, other times it might take me 5 or more tries to get the exposure/light/composition/level exactly how I want it. There are many things I'm very particular about when composing an image of a room, so it's common that on the first couple of clicks I may miss something in the room that I have to move, and then I have to redo the shot before going on to the next room. I have to be VERY observant of things.
Here is a 9000 sq ft house I photographed the other day:
http://www.planomatic.com/12800

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Cool, but I suspect my house would take a fish eye and maybe 15-20 shots to do the job!
Thanks for the example.
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08-25-2012, 06:43 PM
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Cool, but I suspect my house would take a fish eye and maybe 15-20 shots to do the job!
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 Hey, I shoot those houses, too!  It's not unusual for me to do a 1000 (or less) sq. ft house.
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08-26-2012, 03:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimThias
I'm probably pushing 80,000 shutter clicks in one year. I think the shutter is close to dying, though. Occasionally it'll "clunk" and my image will be way over exposed. I'd say that happens once every 300-400 shots.
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80K in a year! Wow, I thought I had a lot on my 60D in a year's time. As of last night I have 7,818.
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08-26-2012, 04:33 PM
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Small dwellings.
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 Hey, I shoot those houses, too!  It's not unusual for me to do a 1000 (or less) sq. ft house.
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Maybe it is a single wide, or better yet, a bluebird on blocks.
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