Old 02-05-2008, 01:28 AM   #1
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Default Cajon Pass and Cross Country Train Trip, and 5 rejects

Photo ID 478685 was rejected from the database.
Railroad: Amtrak
Locomotive: GE P42DC

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Poor Esthetic Quality: This rejection reason means that the photo is of low esthetic qualities, or is simply not the type of material we are wishing to publish.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=188353735
Appeal Rejection: http://www.railpictures.net/members/....php?id=478685

Photo ID 478687 was rejected from the database.
Railroad: Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Locomotive: GE C40-8W (Dash 8-40CW)

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Poor lighting (Backlit): The image is backlit or doesn't feature enough nose light on the subject.
- Composition/Balance: The composition of this photo is poor relating to the overall balance of the image.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=603057777
Appeal Rejection: http://www.railpictures.net/members/....php?id=478687

Photo ID 478688 was rejected from the database.
Railroad: Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Locomotive: GE C40-8W (Dash 8-40CW)

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Poor lighting (Backlit): The image is backlit or doesn't feature enough nose light on the subject.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=162022176
Appeal Rejection: http://www.railpictures.net/members/....php?id=478688

Photo ID 478689 was rejected from the database.
Railroad: Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Locomotive: GE C40-8W (Dash 8-40CW)

Reason(s) for Rejection:

- Poor lighting (Backlit): The image is backlit or doesn't feature enough nose light on the subject.
- Obstructing Objects (Foreground Clutter)

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=478689&key=0
Appeal Rejection: http://www.railpictures.net/members/....php?id=478689



I was a little disappointed about a couple of them.

I took one other almost, I didn't bother to submit.

http://www.gregsphotos.info/photos/d...lbum=40&pos=25

It was one of those, if I'd been 2 minutes earlier I could have gotten on the other side.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:51 AM   #2
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Greg,

I can see your disappointment and I totally understand. Here are my thoughts.

1) Gorgeous shot... post it somewhere else. It's really nice.

The rest) Here's your problem... while most of these are very nice shots (the skip loader in front of the train is a problem), they are pictures of one of the most common kinds of locomotives in one of the most photographed locations in the country. That little bit of missing nose light kills you here because the shots are so easy to repeat. I know it's frustrating, and I like most of them (with the exception of the skip loader), but it's the way it ends up going with BNSF Dash 9s at Cajon.

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Old 02-05-2008, 01:52 AM   #3
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The first one, very nice try. The focal points in the distance are blobs of light, however. Too bad the person was not walking a few feet to the left; he would have been nicely in silhouette. Crop of the right might help it as far as the personal collection goes.

Fourth: agree with screeners 100%.

Keep trying.

PS we can't see your appeal rejections (the links only work for you), and it doesn't matter anyway because those don't give new reasons
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:59 AM   #4
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I didn't appeal them, I was just lazy and copied the e-mail they sent

The rest of the trip pictures (I did 500-8-48-448-67) are here if anyone is curious to see: http://www.gregsphotos.info/photos/index.php
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:00 AM   #5
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Another thing to keep in mind - lighting, lighting, lighting... it's in the wrong spot in those otherwise nice Cajon shots. If your shadow's not pointing towards the subject, 90% of the time you're going to end up with bad results. Just my $0.02.
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Another thing to keep in mind - lighting, lighting, lighting... it's in the wrong spot in those otherwise nice Cajon shots. If your shadow's not pointing towards the subject, 90% of the time you're going to end up with bad results. Just my $0.02.
I beg to differ with that last statement but I think it really depends on the photographer not the light. I think the major problem is composition not really lighting although it is a secondary issue. Cajon shots without Cajon scenery is what I got out of it. You may not be a scenic vista shooter but all I'm getting are train shots therefore the screener goes from seeing the whole shot to just the train and thats where lighting is a or THE factor of acceptance/rejection.
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I beg to differ with that last statement but I think it really depends on the photographer not the light. I think the major problem is composition not really lighting although it is a secondary issue. Cajon shots without Cajon scenery is what I got out of it. You may not be a scenic vista shooter but all I'm getting are train shots therefore the screener goes from seeing the whole shot to just the train and thats where lighting is a or THE factor of acceptance/rejection.
This is a really good point (not just kissing up to a screener...). It's frankly the problem with so many of my early shots... I would go to fantastic locations and not capture the location, just the train.
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