Old 04-27-2017, 01:45 AM   #1
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Both of these seem fine to me, I leveled with the buildings in the background.... Thoughts?

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Old 04-27-2017, 01:52 AM   #2
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Both seem level to me....the CSX one looks unlevel at a glance because the locomotives lean the opposite direction of those power poles. Maybe that is why it got an unlevel rejection?
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Both seem level to me....the CSX one looks unlevel at a glance because the locomotives lean the opposite direction of those power poles. Maybe that is why it got an unlevel rejection?
Could be..... I've had dozens of shots accepted at this location.

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If you compare the accepted and rejected shots with the CSX power, it seems the pole on the right is very slightly more vertical in the accepted shot....but very much splitting hairs. All look level to me overall though, maybe someone else has a better idea of where to use as an ideal reference point.
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The CP shot is fine. The CSX may be leaning slightly right.
What is weird is that so many of the poles really are leaning right.
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A little distortion correction vertically will take care of it.

How many more shots from that same spot you gonna need on here though? lol

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A little distortion correction vertically will take care of it.

How many more shots from that same spot you gonna need on here though? lol

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How many more shots from that same spot you gonna need on here though? lol
Beat me to that statement...
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Both of these seem fine to me, I leveled with the buildings in the background.... Thoughts?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...94&key=5945060

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...95&key=2327177
I think the screeners are mistaking lens distortion and/or the "horizon" not being the same height from left to right (due to parts of it being closer to your position, i.e., perspective distortion) for "leaning."

Me, I use a tripod and a level - that way there's no doubt.
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I think the screeners are mistaking lens distortion and/or the "horizon" not being the same height from left to right (due to parts of it being closer to your position, i.e., perspective distortion) for "leaning."

Me, I use a tripod and a level - that way there's no doubt.
You still probably experience lens distortion. I doubt that all of your verticals (building corners, window frames, non-wooden poles that should be vertical) are parallel from one edge of your frame to the other (mine never are). This is due to lens distortion, and can be corrected in Photoshop or LightRoom. What determines "level" is whether a reliable vertical reference in the center of the frame is truly vertical. Distortion correction can be addressed after the horizon is determined to be level. Level horizon has nothing to due with whether or not the horizon runs flatly across the image. RP doesn't seem to be too concerned with distortion correction. Others, including me are.

You seem to be preoccupied with the idea that the screeners are dummies and don't understand photography. You should submit some stuff and really learn the acceptance/rejection process before judging it. We all have our petty complaints, but they generally get it right. You may learn a few things. I know I have.

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You still probably experience lens distortion. I doubt that all of your verticals (building corners, window frames, non-wooden poles that should be vertical) are parallel from one edge of your frame to the other (mine never are). This is due to lens distortion, and can be corrected in Photoshop or LightRoom. What determines "level" is whether a reliable vertical reference in the center of the frame is truly vertical. Distortion correction can be addressed after the horizon is determined to be level. Level horizon has nothing to due with whether or not the horizon runs flatly across the image.
Nicely explained. You can be level, and the image still be off (unless purposely done for artistic merit).

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As am I. Unless for the artistic merit as mentioned above, I feel the photographer is simply lazy for not addressing it in post process. I'm pretty sure I used stronger wording a long time ago on this exact topic, but lazy will suffice now.

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Beat me to that statement...
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