Old 01-23-2014, 01:31 AM   #1
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Default I'm confused..... how is this bad angle?

This photo got a bad color rejection on first try but bad angle on the second try. I appealed but of course that did no good. What might make this bad angle?

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Old 01-23-2014, 01:50 AM   #2
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I don't really think that's a bad angle. It should be more like bad cropping/ composition.

EDIT: Then again, the rejection does say, "...uninteresting angles on roster shots."
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EDIT: Then again, the rejection does say, "...uninteresting angles on roster shots."
This.

And you got a better shot of that unit in behind the other center cab.
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Yes, i guess that's it. Just frustrating when the first screener lets it through with a fixable rejection and the second screener gives it a killer rejection.
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Yes, i guess that's it. Just frustrating when the first screener lets it through with a fixable rejection and the second screener gives it a killer rejection.
I understand the frustration, but if photography is subjective, then why should we think the screening process isn't going to be either? It's like saying that once an image gets rejected, whether for one thing or five things, it can only be rejected for the same thing when it's reuploaded.
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I understand the frustration, but if photography is subjective, then why should we think the screening process isn't going to be either? It's like saying that once an image gets rejected, whether for one thing or five things, it can only be rejected for the same thing when it's reuploaded.
Yes, screening is of course subjective and the screeners are not robots with a set list of rules to look at. But at the same time, I'm of the opinion that if the first screener only rejected a shot for let's say "bad contrast", then it should somehow set a precedent and the next screener shouldn't give it a killer reject (unless for some glaring fault). I may be in the minority in thinking that way, but that's my two cents on the subject.....
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This photo got a bad color rejection on first try but bad angle on the second try. I appealed but of course that did no good. What might make this bad angle?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...88&key=9247332
Michael, another possibility to consider when given a "bad angle" rejection is not the angle in relation to the subject but instead in relation to the lighting. I have had it happen a few times to me where the reflection of the sun jumping right back at the camera is unattractive and of course it wouldn't make any sense to give it a "bad lighting - backlit" rejection. I hate to say it but in this case I think you might have a bit of both reasons happening here. I'd go back and reshoot, it's doesn't look like that thing is going anywhere soon!

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Michael, another possibility to consider when given a "bad angle" rejection is not the angle in relation to the subject but instead in relation to the lighting. I have had it happen a few times to me where the reflection of the sun jumping right back at the camera is unattractive and of course it wouldn't make any sense to give it a "bad lighting - backlit" rejection. I hate to say it but in this case I think you might have a bit of both reasons happening here. I'd go back and reshoot, it's doesn't look like that thing is going anywhere soon!

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Actually quite the opposite! It's hasn't been there for years; presumably scrapped.
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The other angle that has already been accepted to the database is more appealing than the most recent submission. I find it to be a little bit of an uninteresting roster shot that lacks a lot of contrast. The even broadside lighting doesn't allow for the locomotive to stand out or provide it with much depth.

A different angle, or a more traditional 3/4th angle would help not only the contrast, but the overall composition and angle.

Hope this makes sense!

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The other angle that has already been accepted to the database is more appealing than the most recent submission. I find it to be a little bit of an uninteresting roster shot that lacks a lot of contrast. The even broadside lighting doesn't allow for the locomotive to stand out or provide it with much depth.

A different angle, or a more traditional 3/4th angle would help not only the contrast, but the overall composition and angle.

Hope this makes sense!

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Thanks for your input Chase; appreciate it. This engine was scrapped some time ago, so reshooting it is no longer an option.
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