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Old 01-28-2011, 06:01 PM   #26
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Here is a question I have been struggling with when I post process images. On a flat panel display the angle from which you look at the photo makes a big difference in the exposure perception. If you place the images to "look up" at them on the monitor they look dark but look down at them and they look correct to slightly light. I always assumed that you should have your eye level at about the middle of the monitor looking straight on to judge exposure and these look good at that angle. Yet many are saying these are under exposed. How do you guys deal with figuring out the correct brightness when processing. I am sure everybody on here looks at their monitor from a different height or angle and I am assuming those that feel these are pretty underexposed must be looking up at the monitor (I mean slightly up, not like its on the ceiling). Do the screeners also have monitors at different angles, brightness settings, lighting in the room. All these things make a difference on a flat panel.

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I fixed it for him before he incurred the wrath. Also, FWIW, getting three warbonnet GP60M's on a train in 2011 is pretty cool, just ask this guy!
I guess that line has never seen an intermodal? Geez.

Anyway, to answer the question asked in the title, no. It seems like one (or more) or the screeners' monitors are a bit dark. The easiest way to tell is obviously the histogram. The low afternoon light is a giveaway that it will appear to be darker than a midday shot. After opening one of the shots in PS (see attachment), it was only a little underexposed (-10 on the far right slider in Levels).
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He didn't appear to photochop it, and that's my only beef with photos. You're looking for Mr. Hinson. He's the director of misinformation via reporting marks.
There, now it's an ATSF unit. You all happy?




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The 3 GE most likely came off a train that was DPUed and the next one thats under powered to pickup or their set out for a train thats having problems with power.
They were gone 2 days later when I went back, so maybe so
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I fixed it for him before he incurred the wrath. Also, FWIW, getting three warbonnet GP60M's on a train in 2011 is pretty cool, just ask this guy!
It's people like this that make me ashamed to admit I'm a railfan. Just another reason many of my friends have no idea that this is a hobby of mine.
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Although on the other hand at least he loves what he does.
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warbonnet GP60M's on a train in 2011 is pretty cool, just ask this guy!
Wow now thats sad.
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It's people like this that make me ashamed to admit I'm a railfan. Just another reason many of my friends have no idea that this is a hobby of mine.
Friends AND family.

Them: Hey, what did you do for the last 2 weeks?

Me: I was up in the mountains of West Virginia...

Them: What did you do?

Me: Um, well, took pictures of um, stuff

Them: Like what?

Me: ...

People like that are why I tend to avoid any sort of railfan event like Folkston WinterRail, RailWatch, etc. It's like these people are just too socially awkward to exist in the real world. If I ever end up meeting any of you people in real life you will see I am 100% normal. Maybe a little bit of a dick, but not a geek like this dude.

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Although on the other hand at least he loves what he does.
A little too much.

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Old 01-28-2011, 08:44 PM   #34
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While I am at it, do any of these have any artistic merit?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356653...7625801053893/

These are all straight from the camera, no post processing except resizing (not even sharpening or cropping). I shot some with the gate in focus, some with the background in focus and gate OOF. I take stuff like this from time to time but dont really know what to do with it.



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Old 01-28-2011, 08:57 PM   #35
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I guess that line has never seen an intermodal? Geez.
I thought the same thing. When did Gevos become rare?

And to call someone by a Youtube screen name is just dumb. They have a real name, so use it.
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Old 01-28-2011, 09:53 PM   #37
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I don't know about the potential screener response, but I like the gate photo . . .

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I fixed it for him before he incurred the wrath. Also, FWIW, getting three warbonnet GP60M's on a train in 2011 is pretty cool, just ask this guy!
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:38 PM   #39
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These 2 got rejected again. Might just let them go.

This one still getting bad color: (think it looks a whole lot better than before)
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This one now getting bad color and unlevel (Jim?), it got underexposed before.
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This one now getting bad color and unlevel (Jim?), it got underexposed before.
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Why does the front of that lead loco look like it's on the ground in the weeds? haha

It looks like all three units are leaning to the right. I'd use the vertical at the back of the first loco as a guide. It almost appears as if they are parked on an elevated curve.
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It's definitely not on a curve. I think it's an artifact of the wide angle distortion (17mm). No comment about the weeds.

Here is an unedited photo of the same location from a different angle that I obviously dont like for various reasons. I was shooting the other shot to my left about 30 feet away. You cant tell, but the ROW is elevated compared to where I was standing for the submitted shot.

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Old 01-29-2011, 05:13 AM   #42
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Yes, there is one, sort of. The lead unit hasn't been repainted to replace Santa Fe with BNSF, so it's still in its ATSF paint scheme. Besides, in the reporting marks field he's got it identified as a BNSF unit.

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He didn't when I posted. The RR was listed as ATSF and the unit was listed as ATSF 141...
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He didn't when I posted. The RR was listed as ATSF and the unit was listed as ATSF 141...
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Dude, what are you doing in Arizona? Didn't you just take a month off back in the fall? (not that I'm giving you crap, just curious)
Wow, I could not have said it better........

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OMG!

You mean other people watch these guy's videos?

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I see those foamers employ safe rail-fanning techniques. lol
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I see those foamers employ safe rail-fanning techniques. lol
That is because they are all looking at AT&SF 3751, and when a foamer looks at any running steam engine, they are allowed to throw all caution to the wind and just do whatever.

Realistically, everyone in the background is no closer to the mains than if they were on the platform and the tracks in the foreground are on city owned land and there is a fence across them about 30 feet to the right.
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...and when a foamer looks at any running steam engine, they are allowed to throw all caution to the wind and just do whatever.
Or warbonnets, or SD60's
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They apparently dont like my gate photo.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1191590216

I think this is pretty much bullshit considering the artistic merits of a certain recent PCA (the paper)...
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