Old 09-06-2006, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default Hope for cloudy day shots yet

But only if there's something interesting we're looking at. In this first shot, if the train had come ten minutes sooner, it would have been a downright foggy scene that may not have worked. (I caught it later in the fog and I could not make the shot work.) I believe the new paint on the lead unit and it being relatively clean probably helped this one get it. A dirty loco years away from ity's last paint job might not have got in, truth be know.

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Then, the train stopped to work a spur, but it also picked up three SW end cabs. I had to stick around for a shot even if it was your typical cloudy day fair. But then something happened. Just as the train was shoving past me, the sun came out over my shoulder for less than a minute. So the train was in good light while the sky above the train was cloudy, yet the sun actually helped define shapes and such in the clouds.

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Moral of the story? If you're shooting solely to get shots on RP -- which I would suggest you stop doing -- don't leave a train just because the weather isn't perfect. You never know what might happen.


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Old 09-07-2006, 03:34 AM   #2
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I'll be frank and admit that I have a history of major depression-so I'm a moody SOB at best. It shows in some pictures.

Here is one of my favorite moody ones. Got turned down here but had to share it anyway!

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Old 09-07-2006, 03:44 AM   #3
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Amen to the whole shoot for yourself thing! Even though I tend to shoot on sunny days because of the whole photography thing, I love some of the amazing lighting you can get before or after a storm! Here's a couple of my favorites:
http://slopes09.rrpicturearchives.ne...aspx?id=388808
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Oh, and I finally learned the name of those rays, they're called crescepular rays(hope I spelled that right)
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:52 AM   #4
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That's a nice shot there, Rich.
What was the reason given at RP?
Sometimes I think photos are rejected
at a predetermined brightness level -
lightening it up sometimes will do the
trick. And then, there are just some
images that are ahead of their time.

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Old 09-07-2006, 05:49 AM   #5
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I agree!! I am always out on cloudy days, sharpening my skills, or just seeing trains for the love of them. Come to think of it, some of my favorite shots of mine (both here on rp.net and in my own collection were done on days that were less than perfect.

An example: it was totally cloudy, sheer luck!!!

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Old 09-07-2006, 10:13 AM   #6
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That's a nice shot there, Rich.
What was the reason given at RP?
Sometimes I think photos are rejected
at a predetermined brightness level -
lightening it up sometimes will do the
trick. And then, there are just some
images that are ahead of their time.

/Mitch
Thanks for the compliment-of course it was "too dark". But that's the appeal of it... not gonna brighten this one. Tried it and it ruins the mood.

So I'll choose to believe that it's ahead of its time!

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Old 09-08-2006, 07:47 AM   #7
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I started shooting Tri-X 26 years ago...I love the tonal range B&W offers...especially the moodiness as Rich mentioned...

I shoot DSLR now, but since I live in the wonderful and always sunny desert, I take what I can get with monsoonal clouds during the late summers and shadows offered by the indirect sun.
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Here is one of my favorite moody ones. Got turned down here but had to share it anyway!
Rich, that is a great shot in my opinion.
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:56 AM   #9
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I'll be frank and admit that I have a history of major depression-so I'm a moody SOB at best. It shows in some pictures.

Here is one of my favorite moody ones. Got turned down here but had to share it anyway!
I'm glad you did, it's a good moody shot. I also suffer from depression so I know where your coming from.
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I started shooting Tri-X 26 years ago...I love the tonal range B&W offers...especially the moodiness as Rich mentioned...
Ditto Tri-X, darkrooms, the smell of chemicals, safe lights and other stuff - something this modern day desktop darkroom lacks.
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Rich,

That's a great shot! How long ago was it rejected? If it was awhile back, you might try again. If you check out Chris' latest Strasburg B&W shots, I think there may be a growing appreciation for B&W!

Some of Ted Rose's greatest water color's were of rainy day subjects!

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Old 09-08-2006, 09:22 PM   #11
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I started shooting Tri-X 26 years ago...I love the tonal range B&W offers...especially the moodiness as Rich mentioned...

I shoot DSLR now, but since I live in the wonderful and always sunny desert, I take what I can get with monsoonal clouds during the late summers and shadows offered by the indirect sun.
I agree. I like this shot a lot as well. I wish there was more room for that kind of stuff on here.


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Here is one of my favorite moody ones. Got turned down here but had to share it anyway!

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MAN I like that shot! Too bad they weren't high hoods.
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Cool Submit it again Rich....

....it's a really good shot. The reflection off the rails provides a very "railroady", interesting, and balanced pattern. The two units are in just the right place composition-wise. Maybe I'm a moody SOB as well (my wife would probably agree) but I really like the picture. After working in the railroad world for 40 years, it's the kind of image that reflects the real world of railroading.....where the sun doesn't always shine!

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I agree. I like this shot a lot as well. I wish there was more room for that kind of stuff on here.


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I know... that's my biggest bitch here. Thanks for the compliments, all!

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I'm guessing that maybe there is room here. Seems to me the screeners have been more open of late. I'm seeing some pretty creative stuff getting selected. If you think of it as a loco picture it is not good, but it is really a picture of track....the locos are well just there.

Since resubmitting after appeal and rejection is against the rules, it would be convenient if maybe one of the administrators or screeners would weigh in to provide some guidance as to whether a resubmission would be considered or not. I'm surprised it got rejected, especially on appeal. But eye appeal is a personal thing.

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Great shot Rich.I should admit that NS units looks cool in B&W.Also i like the way of arranging the switchs for transfering the trains from aline to another.I really like it alot and can i put it as abackground of my PC if you donot mind?
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I haven't got many cloudy shots through!
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