Old 04-04-2011, 12:56 AM   #1
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To save me the trouble of submitting this for nothing, does anyone think this photo has any potential of getting on the site? I tried already and they rejected because "undersharpend" so I fixed that and it should work now, but you can never be too sure....

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Old 04-04-2011, 01:05 AM   #2
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Note: this only after the sharpening, I will crop/fix color after I get a suggestion on if it was even worth sharpening.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:07 AM   #3
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Interesting location to be sure. Think you could frame a train better with the coal pile in the background, though... like stand farther to the left so you can get the whole train in the picture.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:10 AM   #4
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Interesting location to be sure. Think you could frame a train better with the coal pile in the background, though... like stand farther to the left so you can get the whole train in the picture.
There offices/buildings to my right so yea....
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I am afraid the power lines kill it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:27 AM   #6
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The power lines are bad, but also I just want to see more. You have a huge coal pile cut off on both sides. I want to see the scene, I want to see why the coal is there. Go much wider next time.
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I am afraid the power lines kill it.
I didn't notice the power lines, so to say they kill the shot, the OP needs to be reminded that's just one peson's opinion. Like another poster above me, I want to see more scene, less train. All of us on this board know what wide cab GEs look like. Without knowing anything about thisarea, I'd say there is a hope for good shots here.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:51 PM   #8
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Ok movin on. How about any of these?

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Old 04-04-2011, 05:58 PM   #9
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None of these are cropped properly.
I like #2 the best, but needs to be cropped and processed (maybe overexposed).
4-5 could get in with some work.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:05 PM   #10
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You're centering most of your trains, esp. when there is only one train in the scene. I know this sounds trite, but a quick glance at a few of the first pages in the database should tell you more of what you need to see when you look at your own shots.

And Google Rule of Thirds.

Both of these will save you and us some time.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:24 PM   #11
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You're centering most of your trains, esp. when there is only one train in the scene. I know this sounds trite, but a quick glance at a few of the first pages in the database should tell you more of what you need to see when you look at your own shots.

And Google Rule of Thirds.

Both of these will save you and us some time.

Well if the train isn't centered they will say bad cropping because of too much dead space or something like poor composition.

It doesn't make any sense, they claim they don't want dead space. Yet they claim they want more scene. It makes no sense.

And the rule of thirds don't tell me anything.

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And the rule of thirds don't tell me anything.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:10 PM   #13
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I see no potential in all those shots, except for 3 and 5. Maybe 4. The quality doesn't look the greatest, so they might slap them with a PIQ..
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Well if the train isn't centered they will say bad cropping because of too much dead space or something like poor composition.
They might say that if, in fact, there is too much dead space or if the composition is poor. They will not say it because the train is off center. You're actually missing one of the most important aspects off good photography by centering your subjects. Centering the subject is very snap shotish.
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It doesn't make any sense, they claim they don't want dead space. Yet they claim they want more scene. It makes no sense.
The very fact that it doesn't make sense to you is the very reason you should take my advice from a few posts up or buy a book on photography as someone else mentioned. You need to learn these things.
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And the rule of thirds don't tell me anything.
That's a you problem, not a problem with the Rule of Thirds. A very quick starters guide would be the thread by David Harrison where he came to us with a rejection. His subject was centered and we were able to help him pretty easily in part because he actually took our advice he asked for. Neat concept.
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3-5 stand a chance with basic adjustments. The BNSF orange needs some work, you definitely need some sharpening and cropping adjustments as well. The first two won't make it. Bad light and obstructing foreground clutter.

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The second yard shot is nice.
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3-5 stand a chance with basic adjustments. The BNSF orange needs some work, you definitely need some sharpening and cropping adjustments as well. The first two won't make it. Bad light and obstructing foreground clutter.

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I read your guide lines and understand a little more about what to do/not do.

Still I find it just strange about the subject not being centered

I doubt 5 has a chance after reading about the quality, but i think 4 might work if I somehow can fix the color and sharpen it. Keyword "might"
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Know what you will get it if you don't get mad. And some do not understanding there not mad or picking on you. BTW we all have a hard time getting some on at times. Yea they don't want the cab in the center but 1/3 off the right or left, Same with up and down most times having it down and showing more sky works, sometimes!
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but i think 4 might work if I somehow can fix the color and sharpen it. Keyword "might"[/QUOTE]

Start buy finding one on here that looks like it and copy it somewhat.
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Know what you will get it if you don't get mad. And some do not understanding there not mad or picking on you. BTW we all have a hard time getting some on at times. Yea they don't want the cab in the center but 1/3 off the right or left, Same with up and down most times having it down and showing more sky works, sometimes!
Ok I think I have an idea now. Speaking of the sky thats one thing that has confused me too. I always thought if you showed too much sky that would get you a "bad cropping".

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Start buy finding one on here that looks like it and copy it somewhat.
Ok I'll keep that in mind.
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Ok. After some research I "think" I understand. So what do y'all think about these?

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And this one
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Ok. After some research I "think" I understand. So what do y'all think about these?
Those are decent. You may have a little too much sky on the first one. With the second one, try to pay attention to train placement when you have utility poles/towers in the background. By no means is it a rule or anything, but when you can capture the nose of the loco before it "touches" the structure in the background, it usually makes for a more visually appealing image. You can then use the poles/towers to frame the subject more effectively.
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And this one
Not much to it, actually.



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The first NS shot looks like it needs some sharpening. Can't tell if this is a focus issue or not. The second shot looks pretty good from what I can tell.
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The first NS shot looks like it needs some sharpening. Can't tell if this is a focus issue or not. The second shot looks pretty good from what I can tell.
Shoot, I cant upload since the file size is too big. Well its pretty much like these so yea.....

Anyway yea I havent sharpend it yet so Ill do that and then I'll give her a try
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