Old 12-17-2008, 01:19 AM   #1
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I can't quite figure out how to crop these photos....

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Old 12-17-2008, 01:21 AM   #2
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Possibly a tad bit more foreground would work.

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I agree with a tad more foreground, but on the Amtrak also the train is too close to the left edge. I hope you have more to work with.
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I agree with a tad more foreground, but on the Amtrak also the train is too close to the left edge. I hope you have more to work with.
It's true! Actually, the Amtrak one COULD have been rejected for "Foreground Clutter", just a guess tho.

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Maybe I didn't add enough foreground?

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Old 12-17-2008, 02:19 AM   #6
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What is the foreground clutter? The other 2 tracks or the snow?
The Snow, Not a lot of them get on, I have one shot today that looks just like yours, i wasn't going to sending it in but may, its all depends on who is the screener at the time you put it in. One takes them one wont. The AMTRAK one needs more room in front of the train. not sure about the Metra? more room at the back?
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I didn't think of it as foreground clutter, and it wasn't rejected on that basis. But what is the story with the tracks going off to the right? They seem to be going at a steep angle, with a little kick at the very right. Optical illusion or reality?
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Its the old BN 3 track main, But not sure why it looks that way?
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I don't think they want these.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=618281&key=0

I did another crop on the Amtrak, and now there's too much grain.

Oh well, snow isn't foreground clutter, it's grain.

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I think it has something to do with the curve. The super elevated curves cause weird angles that are hard to crop.

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Old 12-17-2008, 02:35 AM   #11
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Heck, give it a try. You never know what they might take.

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The Snow, Not a lot of them get on, I have one shot today that looks just like yours, i wasn't going to sending it in but may, its all depends on who is the screener at the time you put it in. One takes them one wont. The AMTRAK one needs more room in front of the train. not sure about the Metra? more room at the back?
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I don't think they want these.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=618281&key=0

I did another crop on the Amtrak, and now there's too much grain.

Oh well, snow isn't foreground clutter, it's grain.

Maybe oversharpened? The snow doesn't look right, looks like a mix of soft/blurred stuff and very sharp stuff.
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The Snow, Not a lot of them get on, I have one shot today that looks just like yours, i wasn't going to sending it in but may, its all depends on who is the screener at the time you put it in. One takes them one wont.
I don't think I've ever seen a snow picture rejected for foreground objects, that being the snow. That sounds a little ridiculous.
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I don't think I've ever seen a snow picture rejected for foreground objects, that being the snow. That sounds a little ridiculous.
Yea i didn't bring it up, theRoadforeman did, but had shots kick out for cloudy and its snowing
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Yea i didn't bring it up, theRoadforeman did, but had shots kick out for cloudy and its snowing
You really have to worry when it gets kicked for "high sun" & "snowing"
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With the way I'm going, I will probably get that rejection soon.

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I like the Metra shot, and think it has a good crop as is.

However, I think you should let the Amtrak shot go. The reason is going to sound odd, since it's a very snowy shot, but the combination of heavy snow, brown trees as the background, and the dark blue on the front of the locomotive all start blending together. This really detracts from the aesthetics of the photo for me, since the locomotive doesn't "pop" from the background. Like JRMDC said, it just doesn't look right. If you had gotten it against the clouds, it would be a lot better to me.
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