Old 04-28-2017, 03:07 AM   #1
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Any merit to this?

The rejection is puzzling, albeit accurate. Not sure it's relevant, probably not worth fighting.
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I purposely sought out this spot to get something from this angle, backlit. Since the train left about 45 minutes late, the sun was a little higher than anticipated, but the arrival of Amtrak gave me something more to capture.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...58&key=3182901

Instead of standing at the crossing by the passenger station and getting the exact same angle as the 50 other people down there...
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Old 04-28-2017, 03:49 AM   #2
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Judging from what I couldn't do with it in photoshop, I think you overshot the limits of that 40d. I owned and used one for a couple years, and it would simply choke when it came to highly dynamic scenes. Perhaps if the original was previewed, I could give some advice as I think it could possibly work. As it stands, the IQ is pretty bad; it's noisy, slightly blurry, and the contrast seems way off.

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It's got that really unappealing blue haze look to it. Keep it for your private collection.
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It's got that really unappealing blue haze look to it. Keep it for your private collection.
Yeah, that's fixable, but what Loyd said about the graininess is true.
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Judging from what I couldn't do with it in photoshop, I think you overshot the limits of that 40d. I owned and used one for a couple years, and it would simply choke when it came to highly dynamic scenes. Perhaps if the original was previewed, I could give some advice as I think it could possibly work. As it stands, the IQ is pretty bad; it's noisy, slightly blurry, and the contrast seems way off.

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My "state of the art, 10 years ago" equipment is really shows it's age under conditions like this...

I was shooting with a 100-400L on a tripod, focus seemed ok in the raw's. But that noise...

40d was never a good high ISO camera, I think I shot it at ISO640, which is a stretch for that body

I wanted something different, gambled and lost... and now regret that decision

I've got several others with just the 611, closer, with no Amtrak i'm going to play with. I wanted to give this one a shot first
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I was shooting with a 100-400L on a tripod, focus seemed ok in the raw's. But that noise...
I've never used my 150-600 on a tripod for train stuff, the FF made me a bit lazy when you can simply crank the iso to stupid levels if need be.

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It was a letdown north of iso400. It didn't last long in night duty for me, but the color depth was quite nice on the sunny days.

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It was a letdown north of iso400. It didn't last long in night duty for me, but the color depth was quite nice on the sunny days.
Yeah, it's still I think a very good body if you can keep it at ISO 200 (sunny days). Focus system is superior to my other body (5d mk 1), which really the only focus point worth a shit is center point.

I was actually looking at camera bodies the other day, but considering how infrequently I get to go out and shoot anymore, it really is not a sound financial decision to buy something new(er). Even used 5d mk 3 or 7d mk 2 are pretty pricy
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Focus system is superior to my other body (5d mk 1), which really the only focus point worth a shit is center point.
People use other focus points besides the center? I learned CPF from the beginning, and haven't strayed. I may look a little funny moving the camera around during shooting, but I only want myself to blame when the focus is screwed up. 6d is a rockstar with me driving the center focus .

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People use other focus points besides the center? I learned CPF from the beginning, and haven't strayed. I may look a little funny moving the camera around during shooting, but I only want myself to blame when the focus is screwed up. 6d is a rockstar with me driving the center focus .

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All i'm saying is that it's really nice to compose a shot on a tripod, wait for the object to hit that AF point and hit shoot, and have it reliably in focus.

ESPECIALLY on a crop frame body (like the 40d). My progression of digital camera bodies went from Digital Rebel XTi to 40d. When I got the 5d, and it was actually a step backwards in this regard, I blew a lot of shots learning (re-learning) to rely on just the CF AF spot. It was a regression in features to me, although I lives with it because image quality was so superior, and it was full frame.

I have indeed gone down the rabbit hole of looking for a new body and can get a used 6d for a little over a grand.

My options are 6d, 5d3, 1d4. With the 6d being the cheapest by a considerable margin...
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I have nothing bad to say about the 6d. Sure, it's not fancy or loaded down with all the bells and whistles and such, but it sure makes a pretty stack of 1s and 0s.

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People use other focus points besides the center? I learned CPF from the beginning, and haven't strayed. I may look a little funny moving the camera around during shooting, but I only want myself to blame when the focus is screwed up.
I'm the same way, Loyd. However, if I have my camera on a tripod, I'll move the single point around the frame until I find the exact spot I want to focus on. But for hand held, it's always the center point and "aim, focus, compose" prior to taking the shot.
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Same Q for this shot

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Me thinks you went a little heavy handed when you lightened up the side of the train. Coupled with the truer to life nose, it just looks bad.

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Old 05-20-2017, 03:51 AM   #14
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The blacks in the nose are totally crushed. It looks a little weird when paired with the unnaturally light side of the engine. The contrast is kind of all over the place too. The tree, for example, has a stark edge running right through the outer branches where some kind of local adjustment ended. I think you could end up with something nice with a little more careful processing though.
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Waaaay to much use of the highlight tool. Look at the drivers.
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