Old 10-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #27
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Well, the two A4s have now arrived in UK.
They were lined up for a one-off photo shoot with home resident 60009 at Shildon. This is the only chance to line up three green A4s. 60010 will be painted LNER blue in two weeks, as part of its loan deal.

An amazing night for an old Brit like me.

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Old 10-21-2012, 10:17 PM   #28
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Looks like you had a great time, Graham! And the 60010 will certainly look great in the new paint, it needs it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:10 AM   #29
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I have seen exactly one A4, the Mallard. You are most fortunate to see this wondrous sight!
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Well, the big event is almost upon us.
http://www.nrm.org.uk/PlanaVisit/Events/mallard75.aspx

Is anyone going? Line up will be repeated in October and Feb. If you can get there, it will be amazing.

Dominion of Canada has now been repainted and the valances refitted, here she is before and after.
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I'll be going, but I'm sure there'll be lots of submissions of the great event.

Incidentally, one of the A4s, Bittern, has just done a test run at 91 mph ready for a 90mph railtour. Now that will be a sight!

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75 years ago today, on 3 July 1938, a London and North Eastern Railway A4 locomotive, no. 4468 Mallard achieved a never to beaten world speed record for steam traction of 126mph.
The record was achieved on the slight downward grade of Stoke Bank south of Grantham on the East Coast Main Line, and the highest speed was recorded at milepost 90, between Little Bytham and Essendine. It broke the German (DRG Class 05) 002's 1936 record of 124.5 mph (200.4 km/h).

Mallard was five months old, meaning that it was sufficiently broken-in to run freely, but not overly worn. Crewing the locomotive on its record attempt were driver Joseph Duddington (a man renowned within the LNER for taking calculated risks) and fireman Thomas Bray. Stoke Bank has a gradient of between 1:178 and 1:200. Mallard, pulling a dynamometer car and six coaches, topped Stoke Summit at 75 mph and accelerated downhill. The speeds at the end of each mile from the summit were recorded as: 87, 96, 104, 107, 111, 116 and 119 mph; half-mile readings after that gave 120, 122, 123, 124 and finally 125 mph. The speed recorded by instruments in the dynamometer car reached a momentary maximum of 126 mph.
The locomotive had previously had problems with the big end bearing for the middle cylinder, so the big end was fitted with a "stink bomb" of aniseed oil which would be released if the bearing overheated. Shortly after attaining the record speed, the middle big end did overheat and Mallard had to limp onwards to Peterborough.

After the run, driver Joe Duddington and Inspector Sid Jenkins were quoted as saying that they thought a speed of 130 mph would have been possible if the train had not had to slow for the junctions at Essendine. In addition at the time, there was a permanent way restriction to 15 mph just north of Grantham which slowed the train as they sought to build up maximum speed before reaching the high speed downhill section just beyond Stoke tunnel.[4]

Today, Mallard celebrates the anniversary with all five of her surviving Class A4 sister locomotives gathered around the turntable in the Great Hall of the National Railway Museum at York. They will be there for a two-week 'great gathering'. The visitors include three UK based, privately owned engines:4464 Bittern, 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley and 60009 Union of South Africa. and on-loan USA-based 60008 Dwight D. Eisenhower and 60010 Dominion of Canada from Montreal after receiving cosmetic restoration at the NRM workshops.

Here is a photo posted on Flickr of today's event:
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I shall be there next week, so I hope it won't be as crowded. But for such a momentous occasion, I fear that it will be. This is truly a once in a lifetime chance.
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It is truly wonderful that six of these magnificent locomotives survived. "The Great Gathering" is a outstanding tribute to Gresley and all the men and women of Britain's railways.
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Well, I got there. So did many thousand others. They have been closing the entrance doors in the middle of the day to stop overcrowding. I had to be very patient to get any photos. Avoiding people was impossible.

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Well, the last chance for people to see the four A4s together is the week after next at the National Railway Museum annex at Shildon in the North East of England.

The bonus this time is that the locos will be side by side on parallel tracks. At York they were parked round a turntable and the location was not well suited to photography. Apart from the expected crowds, the photo opportunities will be much better. Expect some great photos being posted. Unfortunately, not from me!

After waiting for the event for about two years, I now have to go on a business trip to the Philippines for the entire time they are at Shildon!!

Bummer!
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Forgive my American ignorance, but what is the significance of these locomotives? Are they the last of steam locomotives in G.B. or something similar?

I might be an idiot for not knowing, but I just haven't really heard of them before.
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Forgive my American ignorance, but what is the significance of these locomotives? Are they the last of steam locomotives in G.B. or something similar?

I might be an idiot for not knowing, but I just haven't really heard of them before.
Parochialism afflicts many but it is easy to be cured of it. Foreign railroading is easy to dismiss until you experience it. Then you get just as excited as the locals because in the end, it's still railroading.

The A-4's, with a style of streamlining that is an acquired taste for non-Britons, are the ultimate steam locomotive built in the land that invented the steam railway.

Think of it as a NYC Hudson, a N&W J, a MILW F Hudson, a PRR T-1 (take your pick) as the ultimate streamlined steam passenger locomotive would be here.

The hoopla currently surrounding the A-4's is due the 75th anniversary of Mallard's achievement of 126MPH down Stoke Bank. That run officially gave it the title of the swiftest steam locomotive in the world.

Some people (Americans like me) wistfully think of how back in the 30's and 40's the MILW Hudson's and the PRR T-1's purportedly achieved speed in the high 120's and 130's. We of course will never know for sure now.

To celebrate the 75th, the audacious plan was hatched to bring ALL of the survivors back together for a big party including even the ones in North America.

You have to hand it to the Brits.

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Looking forward to the Dominion Of Canada returning to Exporail in St-Constant, Quebec later this year..... I took some photos of it when it was being switched around at Exporail in 2012 in preparation for its temporary repatriation to the U.K.


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Just another retarded looking english locomotive
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I didn't detect even a note of parochialism in Derek's post, just a respectful inquiry.

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Aha, there it is! Thanks, Troy! Parochial America needed to be represented here!
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Ah man, why'd go and have to say somefin like that.

Tehy look pretty spiffy.
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See?

I knew Troy would uphold my faith in parochial America!

Well done!
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Bah... you can keep those limey locomotives over there. If you want to see a show, wait a couple years till N&W 611 and that UP engine we keep seeing pictures of all the time running through parking lots get fixed up and start running around. That will be a real show.

America, fuck yeah!



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I didn't detect even a note of parochialism in Derek's post, just a respectful inquiry.
Correct, J.


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I knew Troy would uphold my faith in parochial America!

Well done!
And I'll chip in for parochial Canada. Damn firkin ugly locomotive (but I'd still drive 'er if given the chance )!
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Parochialism afflicts many but it is easy to be cured of it. Foreign railroading is easy to dismiss until you experience it. Then you get just as excited as the locals because in the end, it's still railroading.
I disagree. If the equipment rolling down the rails is uninteresting, it's easy for me to dismiss it regardless if it's foreign or domestic.


For example, I couldn't get any more excited about this:

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Aha, there it is! Thanks, Troy! Parochial America needed to be represented here!
I meant using parochial in a general sense and no targeting of Derek was intended. My apologizes if seemed to be my intent.

I have seen railfan xenophobia for over 50 years and personally I rather it just go away.

But this is a hobby so everyone enjoy it any way they want.
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I disagree. If the equipment rolling down the rails is uninteresting, it's easy for me to dismiss it regardless if it's foreign or domestic.


For example, I couldn't get any more excited about this:

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...than I get about this:

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Jim, while you found a point so you could disagree, you support my overall statement that if you let yourself experience foreign railroading, you can find stuff to appreciate as well.

I do envy globe trotters like Jean-Marc Freyburg and Daniel Simon. From mainlines to short lines, there is a whole world of railroading to experience.
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Jim, while you found a point so you could disagree, you support my overall statement that if you let yourself experience foreign railroading, you can find stuff to appreciate as well.
I guess what I was getting at is just because I'm in a foreign country, I'm not going to like all the trains I see, and that holds true here in the U.S. as well. For instance, I have zero interest in narrow gauge. In fact, I'd probably look the other way if I saw it coming, even if it is considered "railroading."
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Okay, I've gotta stop you there. You've never been to the East Broad Top have you? I have and it is one of the most nostalgic feeling train rides you'll ever go on. (Not that all train rides aren't nostalgic.)

And I would love to go to the Durango and Silverton but I have neither time nor money to travel across cross-country.

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