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Old 08-17-2008, 06:23 AM   #1
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If you were a screener, would you accept this shot? It got dinged for poor aesthetic quality / not material we publish. If you'd reject it, what grounds would you be basing it on? Thanks!

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:39 AM   #2
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Its ok but he isn't doing a thing is all i can think of.
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:30 PM   #3
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Is it fair to participate if you are the guilty party? I do like the shot but the lack of logo writing on the car combined with the lack of an obvious action just don't do anything for me.
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Old 08-17-2008, 12:38 PM   #4
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Well, frankly, we expect better from you, Nick. It is merely OK, for the reasons given.
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Ouch! 9-2 so far... jeesh.

One of my goals as a photographer has been trying to capture the human element more, given the small group of humans in this shot, hopefully it's a step in the right direction.

The caption explains that the conductor's on the radio trying to figure out how to deal with the big group of passengers who are at the station in the background. The train, including 3 of the 4 Superliners and one of the two P42's can also be seen. Detail nerds might get a kick out of the pattern in the brickwork.

In any event, it was accepted on appeal... but I'm still interested in getting more criticism on it - we want the humans to be doing something that's more interesting to look at and we want some logos, yes?

I suppose I should be thankful he wasn't smoking...
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One of my goals as a photographer has been trying to capture the human element more, given the small group of humans in this shot, hopefully it's a step in the right direction.
There's a lot of human interest in the photo, but it's overwhelmed by tons and tons of extraneous steel.

A guy I shot news with had a saying stuck in the little frame on the back of his Nikon that holds the film box end as a constant reminder:

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Look Closer And Harder.


There's the crop, if you have the pixels (and it brings out the reflections in the windows).
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Big thumbs up to John (Jim Thias, I need a fancy emoticon here!) for both the extraneous steel comment and the crop!
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Unfortunately my original shot doesn't have the detail in it to execute that crop.

This is the first version I submitted - also dinged for PEQ...



I really like both of the shots - I sought the advice from Andrew Ryan, and he suggested that the other, accepted shot, seemed to fit the motives of the site better than the shot linked here, which appeared to be something you'd "see in a newspaper."
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Nick that one would have made todays "Topshot" for sure
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An even better crop:









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An even better crop:




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Sweet.



Not sure if you saw my other one.
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Not sure if you saw my other one.
Yep, and you didn't edit fast enough.
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Yep, and you didn't edit fast enough.


Yes, my mistake...
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On the one in question I found the wheel well distracting - John's crop solved that.
The second one you showed has a lot more human interest (no I am not interested in teen aged girls - but we do have a lot of younger contributors so definitely a #1). I think this is a great shot with lots of caption possibilities.
There is action and direction apparent without reading the comments. The only thing is they are walking - so show the feet. My 2c.
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The second shot is better, in my opinion, but Jim's emoticion thumb action is kinda creepy!

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Unfortunately the second shot's cropped in about the only way that works for it, I think... I can't get any more of the feet due to the original framing of the image. If you guys are into feet and the young ladies, I think you may need some professional help!
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