Old 04-20-2009, 08:00 PM   #1
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I'm still trying to figure out my new monitor, so some seasoned eyes on this shot would be appreciated!

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Old 04-20-2009, 08:37 PM   #2
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This rejection reason is by far the one I struggle the most with.

Would someone please properly explain the difference between color depth and saturation? I can"t seem to figure out the difference (if there is one).

As for this shot, perhaps the screener thinks the red is too saturated, or too deep, or too whatever.

Personally I think this image looks fine as it is.
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Well, it's got a red glow, because it was a 30.5 minute exposure in a driving rain with some light fog. I may try an appeal and explain the situation in detail.

Thanks for the comments Rich!

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Lloyd, if you shot this in RAW, try fiddling with the white balance settings when you do the conversion. I'd also be interested to see what effect slightly underexposing the image does.
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Lloyd, if you shot this in RAW, try fiddling with the white balance settings when you do the conversion. I'd also be interested to see what effect slightly underexposing the image does.
I've actually been shooting night shots in RAW for a couple weeks now, due to my lacking success to suck ratio on them. When I return home tonight, I'll try a lower temperature setting, and a touch of reduction in exposure.

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Old 04-20-2009, 09:33 PM   #6
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Maybe it should look more like this? What do you think.

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Hey Lloyd,

When I look at it on my laptop here at work, the "bad color" I see is the signals themselves. Yes, there is a red cast over much of the shot, which I would expect since the signals are red (they are red....right?). Unfortunately, the signal lamps themselves look amber in the shot. Just a wild guess, but I think that might be what the Screener is looking at colorwise.
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I like Chris' version. It doesn't have that overwhelming zone of colorful blah in the middle, it has more definition.

Nice catch with the auto lights up top, helps to fill out the frame.

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Well, it's got a red glow, because it was a 30.5 minute exposure in a driving rain with some light fog. I may try an appeal and explain the situation in detail.

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30 minutes? Just a few minutes wouldn't have worked?
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30 minutes? Just a few minutes wouldn't have worked?
No. This is a shot I've been trying to nail for several months now. Starting the exposure when the train enters the tunnel doesn't work out the way I want it. I didn't want to have an illuminated bore, and all black around it. So to have even a slight amount of definition of the tunnel entrance, and the surroundings require a long exposure.

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No. This is a shot I've been trying to nail for several months now. Starting the exposure when the train enters the tunnel doesn't work out the way I want it. I didn't want to have an illuminated bore, and all black around it. So to have even a slight amount of definition of the tunnel entrance, and the surroundings require a long exposure.

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Ah, ok. It must have been pretty dark. The ligthing from a full moon would look pretty amazing, I imagine.
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Ah, ok. It must have been pretty dark. The ligthing from a full moon would look pretty amazing, I imagine.
Yea, it gets pretty dark in that area, especially at night!
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Yes, it's quite dark down there. Even with a full moon, it takes around 30 minutes of exposure @ f8 ISO 100 to expose the face of the tunnel correctly.

Oh well, I'm giving up on getting this version on RP. I'll keep going down there, and keep trying.

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The part I find most distracting in the photo is the reflection of the powerline or whatever that white light is in the trees.
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The part I find most distracting in the photo is the reflection of the powerline or whatever that white light is in the trees.
That I believe is the road above the tunnel. Cough, clone it out, cough
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Yes, as Walter said, it's WV State Route 3 above the tunnel. Still a bit busy, even though it's nearly 2am..

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I love the shot personally, but that is just me talking from the peanut gallery.
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