Old 12-12-2011, 10:35 AM   #1
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Still fighting this one. This is the second underexposed I've gotten. If I brighten things up much more the first hopper is going to blow out. More contrast and the train arrives in Candyland. Am I missing something? Maybe I'll try black and white. I seem to have more luck in that department! haha
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Its to dark, The backs are so deep you can't tell the shadows from the sun lit parts! If it looks good to you your monitor maybe to bright?
Add more. pull the high lights down so it doesn't blow out.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:25 PM   #3
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A black engine with those white/silver hoppers can be a challenge. I have had to reduce exposure/brightness on just the hopper cars by selecting them and adjusting downward, then increasing exposure/brightness and a little contrast on the overall image to get them right.
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Still fighting this one. This is the second underexposed I've gotten. If I brighten things up much more the first hopper is going to blow out. More contrast and the train arrives in Candyland. Am I missing something? Maybe I'll try black and white. I seem to have more luck in that department! haha
You haven't learned much about histograms yet, I see.

I think that hopper can take more brightening than you think. You have nothing close to being white.
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You haven't landed the first punch yet! Still too dark, including the first hopper. Some of us over think this photography thing too much. You're worried about something that could happen, but hasn't even began to happen yet. Work with the Brightness/Contrast to start with and see how that goes.

FWIW, I don't look at histograms.
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Histograms are awesome. That shot is waaaaaaaaay too dark.


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You haven't learned much about histograms yet, I see.
BUSTED! haha. Im working on it. I swear!


I'll mess with it some more and see what I can come up with.
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With my rookie understanding of the histogram this is what I have come up with. The histogram shows a good range and slight blown out highlight (slammed to right side??) but I'm assuming that is the left number board and there wasn't any "detail" to lose anyways. I like the color range MUCH better. Brought more out of the black engine rather than making it a blob. Also brought the white up while retaining detail on the hopper. I'm happy. What do you think?
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OK, now you have the end of the histogram, work on the middle. Compare your image and histogram with the attached (PSE , Levels, slide middle slider, which does not disturb the ends of the histogram).
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A-HA! I think Ive got it. I pulled the middle slider to the left (1.18 i think it was) Brightened it up and had a positive effect on the edges and middle of the histogram. I think I'm nearing the finish line. I'll play with it a little more when I get home from work and resubmit. Thanks!
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Just saw that it got on. Big improvement over the first version. Good work!
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I'm going to blame it on my laptop screen. Those dark, muddy images look great on that screen and the accepted version looks bright but okay. Where as on my blackberry the accepted image looks great and the past rejects look like shiz. I thought I had that piece dialed in but apparently not. That's my excuse anyways. It could not have been operator error. I'm just too good for that. Especially being the humblest man alive.

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I'm going to blame it on my laptop screen. Those dark, muddy images look great on that screen and the accepted version looks bright but okay. Where as on my blackberry the accepted image looks great and the past rejects look like shiz. I thought I had that piece dialed in but apparently not. That's my excuse anyways. It could not have been operator error. I'm just too good for that. Especially being the humblest man alive.

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Best money I ever spent in this hobby was for my new IPS monitor, and I check it pretty regularly to make sure it is properly calibrated. Cost a little extra, but well worth it.
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My brother is an IT consultant. Pretty much all around techno nut. He also suggested the IPS monitor. However, he wants to attach a 600+ dollar system to it too! haha. I will have to look into that monitor. I have adjusted my monitor many times but if you move the screen it changes the appearance so I doubt I will ever get it right. Got to pay to play I guess.

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My brother is an IT consultant. Pretty much all around techno nut. He also suggested the IPS monitor. However, he wants to attach a 600+ dollar system to it too! haha. I will have to look into that monitor. I have adjusted my monitor many times but if you move the screen it changes the appearance so I doubt I will ever get it right. Got to pay to play I guess.

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That's the beauty of an IPS monitor, the picture doesn't change as you move the screen - or as you move relative to the screen. Mine wasn't all that much, there are some economical ones out there.
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