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Old 01-20-2011, 08:58 PM   #1
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Default i think the screeners' "delete" button is stuck...any suggestions

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Old 01-20-2011, 09:03 PM   #2
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1. The image has a lot of noise meaning even if it was cropped better it would probably get a noise/grainy rejection.
2. The train is too.... "squooshy," if you will.
3. The signal in the top left is cropped off poorly and distracting to the eye.
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Old 01-21-2011, 12:00 AM   #3
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Basically, everything's too centered. The 1st and 3rd rejection really don't do well vertical, especially the 1st one. Either way, the image quality is a bit poor in all of them. I don't know what to say about the 2nd one except I don't think it's gonna make it.

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Old 01-21-2011, 12:04 AM   #4
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I don't know what to say about the 2nd one except I don't think it's gonna make it.
How about this...high sun. Actually, I believe the "bad angle" rejection comes from the angle at which he is shooting to the train, which is showing too much of the poorly lit side of the train and shadowed trucks.
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Old 01-21-2011, 12:28 AM   #5
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The first one i agree train is way to far out and its also quite grainy. The second photo your butt doesn't count as part of the 3 points contact! and i agree with JT as well on that. The third photo i would have went for a more broadside shot of the engineers side of the train.
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1.) I actually like the idea your going for here, and assuming it's legal to stand where you took the picture, I think if you bring the train closer and make sure your shadow is pointing at the train, it has a chance.

2.) High sun. Pretty much, in the summer, you have morning and evening. All the daylight in between is for other pursuits.

3.) looks a bit backlit and in addition, the signal bridge is out of place.


Make sure when you photograph, your shadow is pointing at the train. RP is real big on good lighting on the front of the engine with these types of shots.
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I like #1.
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No one has said this yet, so here goes, #1, RP does not like squares, and you have a near square crop.

I messed with it a bit but didn't find anything immediately satisfying, didn't spend that much time. So I am not sure whether a vertical or horizontal works better.
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What if you lower the angel a little bit so it looks like the tracks are pointing upwards a little to the engine?
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What if you adventure down the street and not shoot from the station on the first shot? Seriously, you got a rare #1 main running NB Captiol and you don't blast it from somewhere within the square?

http://www.railpictures.net/showphot...ondon%20Square

Not trying to brag but I don't think I have a SINGLE image from that Amtrak station - platform level...

#2, try going to Harbour Way next time.

#3, don't bother.

Try shooting from the raised divider on the waterside of #1 track to shoot, good morning shots and works well if you're there for the weekday 9AM rush.
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Perhaps the 2nd most whored out spot West of the Mississippi?

Sorry, they are all the usual shots of Jack London Square - BFD.

The only one I do have some feeling for is #1, but the way the image is composed just kills it - near centered and square.

Also your on the wrong side of the engine in #2 - the wheels are in the shade.

They didn't ding you for that but if you could fix the angle, that would be their next reason to reject it.

On another note:

Steve, how did you get stuck in the wash?

I didn't think it was that soft on the 4th with the snow and the slush, but I stayed on the packed areas and didn't drive up the wash (that is illegal according to those signs painted on the bridge abutments).

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well thanks for the comments, #1 is a legal spot, i can try to fix the cropping and my camera crapped out of batteries before the train came in, but i guess #2 is gone...#3 i'll try horizontal. Why did amtrak have to change the starlight's time to 2 hours later!!?!?!
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any thing worthy here?
1: i changed the cropping
2: i wish there was no #$%^* shadow on the nose!
3: gahhhhh
4: Gahh?
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What if you adventure down the street and not shoot from the station on the first shot? Seriously, you got a rare #1 main running NB Captiol and you don't blast it from somewhere within the square?
i was on a bike...no chance of getting anywhere faster than it...and i was waiting for the starlight which was the one on main 2.
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i was on a bike...no chance of getting anywhere faster than it...and i was waiting for the starlight which was the one on main 2.
Put some thought as to where your going to shoot these trains. I have 4 shots in the DB that I wouldn't have gotten if it wasn't for a bike.
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any thing worthy here?
1: i changed the cropping
2: i wish there was no #$%^* shadow on the nose!
1. Train is still too far away (per the rejection). Do you have a frame with it closer?

2. Why didn't you shoot a frame before the train got to the shadow?
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i was waiting for the train to stop so i could get to that point...i was on the island platform...

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i was waiting for the train to stop so i could get to that point...i was on the island platform...
The shadowed nose shot has no island platform there.

BTW, El Roco, the sand was softer than I thought and I sunk right in! Luckily I used a floor-mat technique I learned for the snow and got myself out pretty easily. Hey, great meeting you at Fullerton the other night too!
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The shadowed nose shot has no island platform there.

BTW, El Roco, the sand was softer than I thought and I sunk right in! Luckily I used a floor-mat technique I learned for the snow and got myself out pretty easily. Hey, great meeting you at Fullerton the other night too!
Don't feel bad, BNSF got one of their trucks stuck on Davis Ranch Road too and they brought a backhoe out to come get it.

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Don't feel bad, BNSF got one of their trucks stuck on Davis Ranch Road too and they brought a backhoe out to come get it.
I've seen many Rezenberger vans stuck before and heard stories of hi-railers getting stuck while setting off... I get stuck all the time (almost did yesterday), I'm used to it... Maybe I should stop being so adventurous...
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I've seen many Rezenberger vans stuck before and heard stories of hi-railers getting stuck while setting off... I get stuck all the time (almost did yesterday), I'm used to it... Maybe I should stop being so adventurous...
Na, get a winch, a dead man, a good shovel and a set of tow chains.

When I was up there on the 4th, the roads got real yucky by the end of the day and I didn't even try to go all the way to CP Walker.

I went across the first ford of the creek and got up on the other side and the dirt was just slick as butter.

Since the light was gone I turned around (carefully) and went back out.

20 years ago I would have went for it just because I could, but I hate digging and I am smarter now, which is the way to rationalize getting old and lazy.
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Na, get a winch, a dead man, a good shovel and a set of tow chains.
Workin on the winch, its on my list.. Shovel was left on Donner plus, would be hard to bring with on the drive to New Mexico... ; - )

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That's funny reading YOU saying YOU'RE smarter now...

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I was busting his chops about it again tonight and this is the result.

Apparently I don't have a real life since my Avatar on some Web Site is such a big deal.
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I was busting his chops about it again tonight and this is the result.

Apparently I don't have a real life since my Avatar on some Web Site is such a big deal.
Any good Swifts tonight?
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