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Works as is for me, Guessing unless the wheel has flat spots go with it? And I sure that rework of the website will go down at some point.
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Speaking of. While this is an interesting picture, the feel of shooting out of a porthole is distracting as hell to me

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Whatta ya mean? It gives me the feeling that I'm actually riding inside on of those interurbans and watching another one going away from me. I think it's a great shot.

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To me, the "feel of shooting out of a porthole" is exactly what you should feel! So the shot is a success. If you feel distracted, please don't go back in time and become a crewman on one of these operations.
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Geeze, Troy...these are Pacific Electric "Owls"---which were noted for those round end windows (hence the nickname). Even though this was shot in 1958, it's one of the most classic scenes of these cars I have ever seen! The composition is pure genius.

For some reason I hadn't noticed this shot when John first uploaded it...so thanks for calling it to my attention. Brilliant!!!
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I dont know, I think it would have been better if he was about 1 foot closer so we could see the whole scene out the window. To me it was like lazy people who scan slides and dont take the effort to crop out the slide frames. I will keep this in mind if I ever go back in time.
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I don't know how old John was in 1958, but I know I look at some of my shots taken when I was in my 20s and think there are things I would do different. But this one defimnitely got my attention. My only real complaint with it is that I don't have access to Doc Brown's DeLorean so I could try my hand at tis scene.
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I dont know, I think it would have been better if he was about 1 foot closer so we could see the whole scene out the window. To me it was like lazy people who scan slides and dont take the effort to crop out the slide frames. I will keep this in mind if I ever go back in time.
More then likely 99% rather have the window framed like it is.
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I dont know, I think it would have been better if he was about 1 foot closer so we could see the whole scene out the window. To me it was like lazy people who scan slides and dont take the effort to crop out the slide frames. I will keep this in mind if I ever go back in time.
Troy thats the whole point of the shot...
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I was 19, had just gotten my first camera, and that shot is good example of the big role that LUCK plays in photography.
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I'll take that kind of luck any day!
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I'd love to have that '57 Chevy 210 2-door post in that picture!

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I dont know, I think it would have been better if he was about 1 foot closer so we could see the whole scene out the window. To me it was like lazy people who scan slides and dont take the effort to crop out the slide frames. I will keep this in mind if I ever go back in time.



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My first car was more like that Ford behind it, except black body with a white top. Had a V-8 and got about 11 mpg. But gas was 19 cents a gallon. Or was it the burgers were 19 cents. Something was 19 cents.
yea but pay was .20 a hour too or less and a weeks pay was $200. or maybe less.
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yea but pay was .20 a hour too or less and a weeks pay was $200. or maybe less.
If you are getting 20 cents an hour you have to work 1000 hours in a week to make $200.

I leave it to the reader to determine the feasibility of such an effort.
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Geeze, Troy...these are Pacific Electric "Owls"---which were noted for those round end windows (hence the nickname). Even though this was shot in 1958, it's one of the most classic scenes of these cars I have ever seen! The composition is pure genius.

For some reason I hadn't noticed this shot when John first uploaded it...so thanks for calling it to my attention. Brilliant!!!
I love this shot for the reasons given by Ron. A porthole to show porthole equipment. Perfect. Super thinking and shooting!

John was 19 years old and he says luck got the shot. I say talent.

Look at RP article #26 for what I did when I was 19 or so.

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Imagine that...a train pic taken by a teenager over half a century ago is "highbrow."
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I leave it to the reader to determine the feasibility of such an effort.
You know I was thinking what a kid would get payed pupping gas, and then I called Dad up ask what he made a week back in that time frame so yea didn't add up at all. Yea pay was small but the Buck was worth more too and with out looking it up I say that .20 would be .50 Just in devalue alone. $1.60 with inflashion.
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You know I was thinking what a kid would get payed pupping gas, and then I called Dad up ask what he made a week back in that time frame so yea didn't add up at all. Yea pay was small but the Buck was worth more too and with out looking it up I say that .20 would be .50 Just in devalue alone. $1.60 with inflashion.
I dont know if you know this or not, but in New Jersey, it's against the law to pump your own gas. Everything full service. I have no idea what they make. The first time I drove through there I was like, WTF??? I would be hard pressed to find a single gas station around here that even has a full service pump.

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I dont know if you know this or not, but in New Jersey, it's against the law to pump your own gas. Everything self service. I have no idea what they make. The first time I drove through there I was like, WTF??? I would be hard pressed to find a single gas station around here that even has a full service pump.
You meant "everything full service." Oregon does that also, I believe.
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You meant "everything full service." Oregon does that also, I believe.
Yeah, idiots. The first time I drove through Oregon I had no idea that it wasn't self-serve. I got out to pump my gas and the attendant came walking up with a "WTF" look on his face and said, "PUT THAT NOZZLE DOWN!" Well, he didn't actually say that, but he sure looked like he wanted to.
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Yeah, idiots. The first time I drove through Oregon I had no idea that it wasn't self-serve. I got out to pump my gas and the attendant came walking up with a "WTF" look on his face and said, "PUT THAT NOZZLE DOWN!" Well, he didn't actually say that, but he sure looked like he wanted to.
I had a similar experience in Oregon. The attendant came up and with that famous "WTF" look and said "You're not from around here are you?". That's never a good thing to hear...
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