Old 07-26-2013, 12:56 AM   #1
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Default Rejection - Blurry

I haven't been rejected for such a blunt reason before.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...31&key=2105779
I don't see where it's blurry, or is it just me?

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Old 07-26-2013, 01:12 AM   #2
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Check out the front of the nose. And I don't think you can sharpen it enough to fix it and still make it look good.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:14 AM   #3
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I haven't been rejected for such a blunt reason before.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...31&key=2105779
I don't see where it's blurry, or is it just me?
It's just you.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:19 AM   #4
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Anything that would've caused this?
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:22 AM   #5
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Lights good but it looks like heat distortion got the best of you here. Probably nothing you can do to get it accepted. It also looks like you may have had to focus point set at the middle as that appears to be the sharpest part of the image.

If you get past the Blurry rejection you'll probably get hit with cropping. The train sits awkward in the frame. The locomotives are too close to the edge of the frame and there is too much dead space below and to the right of the cars. You need some more of trees above the train.

Just pointing out some simple issues with the image and why it likely will not be accepted. It looks like you have the basics down, just need to make a few adjustments to meet the 'RP standard'.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:27 AM   #6
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I would have gone F8 at ISO200 personally, shutter speed is fine.

I never used that body, but chances are the focus points outside center suck like most non-1 series canons. So your best idea is to use center focus point aimed at nose of lead unit and crop it from there.

In your profile it says you have a 60D, if so, why are you using a T2i? And your best lens is a 28-135? Not a good lens. Money is better spent on glass. And also, is this the only place to shoot trains where you live?
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:30 AM   #7
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Manual focus was used and was set to infinity. (Normal focus goes up to 50ft before going into infinity)
This was actually cropped from the original frame;
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:39 AM   #8
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In your profile it says you have a 60D, if so, why are you using a T2i?
My 60D is in shipping process. I entered that to save time later.

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And also, is this the only place to shoot trains where you live?
This is probably one of the better places to capture trains as everywhere else is more or less boring unless we get into things like this;
http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/d03d...901b43ff4d.jpg
I'm not too happy with this shot either.

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And your best lens is a 28-135? Not a good lens. Money is better spent on glass.
The 28-135mm is the the best lens I can afford at the moment. Nothing that I can do about that, my planned next glass will be the 70-200mm F/4.0L USM Non-IS. I have a higher chance of getting a job next year compared to now.


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I would have gone F8 at ISO200 personally, shutter speed is fine.
I've also seen said a few times in guides that the Base ISO of the sensor is ideal unless you have to increase it (For example, lighting and faster shutter)
I'll normally use that shutter speed and adjust the aperture as necessary. I'll try to stay at the Base ISO as well.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:20 AM   #9
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I like the original frame better than your crop.

I also wonder if the original frame would have not shown the distortion as much.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:37 AM   #10
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I like the original frame better than your crop.

I also wonder if the original frame would have not shown the distortion as much.
Unfortunately not.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:52 AM   #11
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This is probably one of the better places to capture trains as everywhere else is more or less boring unless we get into things like this;
http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/d03d...901b43ff4d.jpg
I'm not too happy with this shot either.
Maybe start with the boring and easy.

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The 28-135mm is the the best lens I can afford at the moment. Nothing that I can do about that, my planned next glass will be the 70-200mm F/4.0L USM Non-IS. I have a higher chance of getting a job next year compared to now.
If it was me, I would have bought new glass rather than a new body. The T2i I am sure is decent enough. My first DSLR was a Rebel XTi, which was certainly good enough in most areas except FPS. I had an EOS film body before I went digital.

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I've also seen said a few times in guides that the Base ISO of the sensor is ideal unless you have to increase it (For example, lighting and faster shutter)
I'll normally use that shutter speed and adjust the aperture as necessary. I'll try to stay at the Base ISO as well.
Hogwash. Unless you are talking about really old DSLR's. I am talking 10d, 300D, stuff like that. F8 and shutter speed of 1/500 for shooting moving targets. Your lens sucks at most apertures, shooting lower than F8 (smaller number = larger iris opening in the lens) is a recipe for less than stellar shots. ISO200 is perfectly fine for your camera, ISO400 is fine too probably.
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Unfortunately not.
Sharpen the nose on this crop, and I think you've got it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:07 AM   #13
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The only way I was able to afford my 60D is via private sale to a friend of mine.
He agreed that I may keep it until I get my 60D, which was nice of him. I've obtained $450 for it and was able to snag one for $590. I also spent $200 on the lens, which I like much better than my kit lens.
But I guess it was a waste of money.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:10 AM   #14
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Better?
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Better?
Try it. Never hurts. Lol
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:23 AM   #16
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True, just a few hours away before my upload limit resets
Alright, here we go.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:31 AM   #17
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Let us know. Lol.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:40 AM   #18
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Decided to take an attempt at color processing while I'm waiting for the results.

To me this looks more Real-Life accurate but I understand everyone's monitor is different and I need to adjust mine.
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The numberboards are still blurry or out of focus, cant you see that?
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The numberboards are still blurry or out of focus, cant you see that?
Since you are saying my lens is garbage, would you mind telling me why instead of bashing me for not having expensive glass?
I was never told entering the photography hobby that I need to sell everything I own to buy the most expensive glass or my photos would turn out awful.

To be honest, and this is just me looking back at archived photos I have, I'd say my photos are getting better each time, and every time I get a new lens.

I'm not exactly rich either, I only upgraded to the 60D for the FPS it gives out, and the swivel screen for composing tricky shots in the future.
I guess the "Do with what you can afford" phrase doesn't work anymore.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:29 AM   #21
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Got accepted after all. Quite happy with my first photo on here!
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=444700&nseq=1
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my planned next glass will be the 70-200mm F/4.0L USM Non-IS. I have a higher chance of getting a job next year compared to now.
Why spend all that money on a lens like that and not get IS. Waste of money to NOT get that.

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Since you are saying my lens is garbage, would you mind telling me why instead of bashing me for not having expensive glass?
I was never told entering the photography hobby that I need to sell everything I own to buy the most expensive glass or my photos would turn out awful.
Simple. It's a cheap lens.

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To be honest, and this is just me looking back at archived photos I have, I'd say my photos are getting better each time, and every time I get a new lens.

I'm not exactly rich either, I only upgraded to the 60D for the FPS it gives out, and the swivel screen for composing tricky shots in the future.
I guess the "Do with what you can afford" phrase doesn't work anymore.
That's some deep stuff.

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Got accepted after all. Quite happy with my first photo on here!
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=444700&nseq=1
So, how DID you do this shot? Considering the other day you had no idea how it was done.
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Why spend all that money on a lens like that and not get IS. Waste of money to NOT get that.
What lens are you referring to?

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So, how DID you do this shot? Considering the other day you had no idea how it was done.
Shoving it under the fence. Interestingly I found 2 other holes. One for each railroad. One for CSX, one for URR, and one for NS. Seemed like they all had iffy shots in my opinion, and the other two holes were not large enough for a DSLR Lens. Kinda like this place to be honest. Now I have to try to find another shot in town that's worthy of trying.
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What lens are you referring to?
You're joking, right?
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Sorry I even asked/ranted.
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