Old 10-14-2015, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default Backlit...not enough light on the nose

Is this screener wanting more light on the plow/coupler because I can see a grabrail shadow on the nose of the lead engine?

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Old 10-14-2015, 01:29 PM   #2
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A rejection that I hate and I think is misapplied eliminating lots of good images. I think your photo is really side lit and would appeal on that basis, notating where the shadow falls and part of the nose has sun.

The below image which is nowhere as nice was rejected as backlit but was accepted on appeal. Maybe I just got lucky but worth a try??

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...500959&nseq=64

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Old 10-14-2015, 02:03 PM   #3
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Is this screener wanting more light on the plow/coupler because I can see a grabrail shadow on the nose of the lead engine?

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http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...47&key=8529902

I actually would darken the nose of the lead engine.
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Old 10-14-2015, 05:33 PM   #4
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Wow. That is a fabulous shot. The rejection is awfully shortsighted. Hell, submitted ti Trains or R&R and screw RP!

Might be one if the dumbest rejections I've ever seen here
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:42 PM   #5
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RP reminds me of an interstate highway when they set up speed traps for a week or two.

Everything is rolling smoothly for weeks and weeks. The speed limit is 55 but you can do 70 with no problems. You can do 65, 62, even 50 mph. Then suddenly, out of nowhere everyone gets hassled for 56 mph.

I'm with Jon - I'd darken the nose ever so slightly, and then appeal - maybe you'll get "the good" cop, or a sympathetic judge.

Or wait a week or two when the speed trap is no longer in operation.

Nice shot - good to see an alternate perspective from a well known spot.

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Old 10-14-2015, 07:07 PM   #6
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I'm with Jon - I'd darken the nose ever so slightly, and then appeal - maybe you'll get "the good" cop, or a sympathetic judge.

/Mitch
You guys are scaring me! If I darken the nose and resubmit, I might have my upload privileges revoked since that is what the original rejection is. I am already down to two a day.

I don't feel like playing Russian Roulette with the screener(s).
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:34 PM   #7
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My take is that part of the nose has some sun light and part is dark but the dark part was lightened to hide that, giving the nose a flat dull look ie a shadow with no shadow which does not make it appealing.

See this photo as an example???
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/550098


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Old 10-14-2015, 09:59 PM   #8
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I recommend saving appeals for cases in which the screener has clearly made a mistake, or for shots that really mean a lot to you. This shot is OK, but IMHO not worth the risk, especially if you have appealed anything anytime recently. Appeals should be few and far between....not once a day or even once a week.
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...I might have my upload privileges revoked...
Downside: fewer views.
Upside: more freedom, lower blood pressure.

BTW, has everyone noticed that the video side here has gone dormant?
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The question is - when is good enough, good enough?

I like RP for seeing what's out there and what's possible almost as much as I like viewing it for "the best railroad photos on the Net". I think the shot is plenty good enough - and better them most accepted. So long as admin screens out the junk, good enough is good enough. And if you believe this is not the direction admin wants to go for RP, they why do they accept so much in the way of wedges, Darwin's and accidents? Scroll past what doesn't interest you - the front page (can) represent RP's best face. Y'know.... so long as no one is linking and RP keeps taking wrecks. I don't mind the wrecks - annoying when posted along with my uploads, but adds to the record (aka; database). Where as a linked images (often) adds nothing but ego.

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I'll add, I like viewing RP to see the best photographers on the Net as well - as a collection.
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I recommend saving appeals for cases in which the screener has clearly made a mistake, or for shots that really mean a lot to you. This shot is OK, but IMHO not worth the risk, especially if you have appealed anything anytime recently. Appeals should be few and far between....not once a day or even once a week.
Why should contributors even need to worry about unstated and arbitrary limits?
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Why should contributors even need to worry about unstated and arbitrary limits?
Double Secret Probation.

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This shot being rejected us just dumb. No other way to say it that won't get me banned. It doesn't need darkening or lightning. Just needs to be accepted
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Old 10-15-2015, 05:51 AM   #14
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It's a stupid rejection, but that is what the two Chris's are all about. A narrow view of what good photography is all about. I needed to reduce a lot of stress in my life and the first place I started was here, no more photos from Indecline and I don't miss the bs at all. Why go through all the crap to get a photo on this site?????
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...no more photos from Indecline and I don't miss the bs at all. Why go through all the crap to get a photo on this site?????
And the site has been "indecline" ever since. Congratulations on the center spread in 2015's Railroads Illustrated!

So who takes RP "too seriously"? An established well received patron that has been posting for months, if not years, and tries to put most of his portfolio on RP or admin whose willing to risk losing all of the collection over a handful of images in a collection of 500,000? I guess each side will say it's a matter of principle but seems to me, the principle reason viewers come to RP is to see "the best railroad photos on the Net".

Personally, I'd love to see RP send out "we want you back" invitations. It'll save me the time of checking FB, Smugmug, FLICKR and 500Pix so often!

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Old 10-15-2015, 12:32 PM   #16
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Cool shot, Carl, thanks for sharing.
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Did a rework. now I got a contrast (too high)

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Never got that one yet. Don't know about the contrast but it does look odd now.???

Did you go back to original or modify rejected image? I sometimes find starting all over better than trying to undo mistakes.

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Who takes this place so seriously, leaves, but stays around to make a point about how they don't take this place seriously anymore?

Who cares?

Everyone's photography sucks. Mine included. Choo Choo photography will never be that mainstream. Get over yourselves. The world is no better or no worse if this place and all the photography disappeared forever. In fact, I couldn't name a single person that used to post here, and now doesn't. It's not that big a deal. It's not even worthy of a facebook 'woe is me' post.

So much whining, bitching, and complaining on here lately. No deaths have been reported due to a photo rejection.

Go foaming and have fun, and the hell with this place. Geez.

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- Contrast (High): The contrast (relative difference between light/dark areas) is too high, making the image lose its tonal depth.
Maybe I'm interpreting that incorrectly, but wouldn't too much contrast = too much tonal depth? Less contrast, less tonal depth. At least that's how my brain processes it.
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@Bob. I did a restart. Now I think I am stuck in the "trying to please the screener mode" . I will give it a rest and start all over in a few weeks.

Thanks for the reality check ""BigBassWoofer" Loyd.

I did get Q316 climbing out of the hole in Terra Alts last week. Very cool experience. Maybe RP will take a pic or two of what I saw....fingers crossed.
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I personally like the first one better than the second submission. Maybe enhance the clarity slightly on the first image? I feel this photo deserves a place on RP's.
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I personally like the first one better than the second submission. Maybe enhance the clarity slightly on the first image? I feel this photo deserves a place on RP's.
Agreed. First one is excellent. Stop trying to "fix" it.
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Who takes this place so seriously, leaves, but stays around to make a point about how they don't take this place seriously anymore?

Who cares?

Everyone's photography sucks. Mine included. Choo Choo photography will never be that mainstream. Get over yourselves. The world is no better or no worse if this place and all the photography disappeared forever. In fact, I couldn't name a single person that used to post here, and now doesn't. It's not that big a deal. It's not even worthy of a facebook 'woe is me' post.

So much whining, bitching, and complaining on here lately. No deaths have been reported due to a photo rejection.

Go foaming and have fun, and the hell with this place. Geez.

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Some of us think it's the site that ought to lighten up on their personal preferences, which were in danger of becoming the inviolable rules for the hobby.

We invest lots of time, effort and $$$ into this, an antidote to the awfulness we see on the evening news every day.
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