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Old 04-11-2013, 06:31 PM   #51
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Since I still have never been to Chicago, I'd love to go. To Chicago. To shoot trains.
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I went. Had a spectacular time, and was pretty much able to shoot more than all my previous trips up there.

There was a cost, though, to overextending myself Friday.
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I learn and experience more in depth rail related subjects at that conference than I could ever get being trackside or online browsing for rail related topics. There is only a handful of topics but they always blow me away. It is also one of the only times of the year I am around others that also enjoy railroads at my level.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:23 AM   #54
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I'm so glad they are moving this thing to May next year. EVERY frickin' year the weather is dismal the weekend of the conference. Yes, Travis, I know you love dismal, but I've about had enough of 40 degree wind and rain. Bah!
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I'm so glad they are moving this thing to May next year. EVERY frickin' year the weather is dismal the weekend of the conference. Yes, Travis, I know you love dismal, but I've about had enough of 40 degree wind and rain. Bah!
Great news - although 5 years ago the weather was gorgeous! Maybe I'll luck into a gap at work.
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I paid for Saturday only. Figured I should go, since I live down the street practically.

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Nice to meet you too Jim. Hope to railfan with you some day.

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I was there, and I thoroughly enjoyed it (my third). I found most of the presentations fascinating (not all of them though). It's not the sort of thing most RP.net folks would "get" or enjoy, however. I even managed to photograph a few trains at Rondout and Lake Forest, and I might upload some later on.

But---I didn't spend any time talking about RP.net, did I Jim?
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.....It's not the sort of thing most RP.net folks would "get" or enjoy, however.
Curious, please elaborate - privately if need be, thanks.
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But---I didn't spend any time talking about RP.net, did I Jim?
I didn't hear you reference RP. What are you talking about?
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A lot of the conference is looking a bit deeper into the history, photography, art, and other aspects of railroads. It not just a photo viewing get together. If you're into that its worth the trip, if you mainly enjoy the photography aspect of trains, it may not be exactly what you are looking for.
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A lot of the conference is looking a bit deeper into the history, photography, art, and other aspects of railroads. It not just a photo viewing get together. If you're into that its worth the trip, if you mainly enjoy the photography aspect of trains, it may not be exactly what you are looking for.
Ah, thanks.

One day I perhaps will make the trip out there.

Sounds interesting.
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I'm so glad they are moving this thing to May next year. EVERY frickin' year the weather is dismal the weekend of the conference. Yes, Travis, I know you love dismal, but I've about had enough of 40 degree wind and rain. Bah!
Chicago was like a summer vacation for me, compared to what I left and returned to. I too like the soft light from heavy overcast skies. Didn't matter much as I was mostly down in the tubes with the rats, photo'ing subways. For me, those are exotic! I left my month old Nikon D7100 at home and only brought a pair of 60 yr. old film cameras: a Leica IIIc and a Rolleiflex, loaded with HP5 and X3200 (b&w). Classic stuff for a classic look.



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Kent, sorry I didn't get more time to chat with you. Maybe next year.
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Kent, sorry I didn't get more time to chat with you. Maybe next year.
Yeah, it was hectic! There's a chance I might be out your way over the summer anyway.


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A lot of the conference is looking a bit deeper into the history, photography, art, and other aspects of railroads. It not just a photo viewing get together. If you're into that its worth the trip, if you mainly enjoy the photography aspect of trains, it may not be exactly what you are looking for.
Exactly, Travis. Thanks for explaining, because I kind of left it hanging. I didn't mean to come across in such an elitist tone, but I don't think it would be something 95 percent of RP.net fans would enjoy. Actually, I love the social aspect as much as anything, as I get to see a lot of folks from all across the country. Railroad photography and art is bit deeper than most of the images you see posted on RP.net. And---many ardent RP.net fans don't see railroad photography as "art"--which is all well and good. Different strokes for different folks.
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1. I didn't mean to come across in such an elitist tone, but I don't think it would be something 95 percent of RP.net fans would enjoy.... Railroad photography and art is bit deeper than most of the images you see posted on RP.net. And---many ardent RP.net fans don't see railroad photography as "art"--which is all well and good. Different strokes for different folks.

2. Actually, I love the social aspect as much as anything, as I get to see a lot of folks from all across the country.

1. I'll try to explain it this way, Ron. Go take a look at the last 60 images uploaded to RPnet. That will give you a sample of what the audience here enjoys seeing. Now, go take a look at the winners from two years of CRPA contests:

http://www.railphoto-art.org/awards/2009-awards/

http://www.railphoto-art.org/awards/2010-awards/

See the difference? For one group, the engine seems all important. For another group, the "feel" seems to be more important. RPnet and CRPA seem to appeal to different crowds (with maybe ~5% overlap.) Both are types of railfans, of course. Hopefuly no one is coming off an an "elitist" here. In the end, we're all just foamers.

2. Actually, I love the social aspect as much as anything, as I get to see a lot of folks from all across the country.

That has actually become the most important thing for me as well. Heck, I haven't even been going out on Saturday night to shoot trains there any more. I'd rather spend time with friends I would never get to see otherwise.


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So none of the screeners were at this event I take it.

I think I would enjoy it.
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So none of the screeners were at this event I take it.
I didn't spend a long time digging through the past winners, but I noticed that several of those images can also be found on RP.

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I didn't spend a long time digging through the past winners, but I noticed that several of those images can also be found on RP.


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That's true. However, those kinds of shots are in the minority here, big time.

RP.net can only post what's submitted. I would say 95 percent or more of the submissions do not rise to the level of "art"; they're just sunny day wedgie shots of trains. Nothing wrong with that at all---because that's exactly what 95 percent of railfan photographers shoot, and enjoy seeing.

That's why I said the largest majority of RP.net folks would not enjoy the conference in Lake Forest. That doesn't mean they're knuckle-dragging morons---it just means they don't care for their railroad photography as "art." Again, different strokes for different folks...
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I'm starting to feel like I've entered a worm hole and landed in ObsCar somehow....
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I'm starting to feel like I've entered a worm hole and landed in ObsCar somehow....
I was thinking that Ron sounded an awful lot like Paulie there . . .

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I didn't spend a long time digging through the past winners, but I noticed that several of those images can also be found on RP.

Yes, to be expected. I linked to something like 50 photos, I think. If three of them are also on RPnet, that breaks down to about the same percentage as Ron & I were guessing at: ~5%. It's just a different branch of railfanning, as is writing and painting. Then there are the specialties, such as what Wes Carr has gotten into during the past four years.

http://www.fadingad.com/fadingadblog/?p=343

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I was thinking that Ron sounded an awful lot like Paulie there . . .

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Please! I don't think I offered any damnation and judgement on anyone who didn't worship at the alter of railroad photography as an art form. For what it's worth, I enjoy a sunny day wedgie and calendar-type shot as much as the next guy.
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