Old 09-30-2014, 04:27 PM   #1
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After sitting in the #1 slot in the queue for a half a day, I got that rejection. Any suggestions on a re-crop to make it acceptable?

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There is no interesting "verticalness" in this shot, so maybe recrop horizontal. The sky has clouds, sure, but not interesting clouds. But it is hard to get a feel for the shot because it is so dark, so I'd work on exposure first, to see if there is anything there worth fixing.
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There is no interesting "verticalness" in this shot, so maybe recrop horizontal. The sky has clouds, sure, but not interesting clouds. But it is hard to get a feel for the shot because it is so dark, so I'd work on exposure first, to see if there is anything there worth fixing.
J, I shot vertical because there was no interesting "horizontalness" in the frame. The clouds IMO where more interesting than green foliage on both sides. I checked the levels and the exposure looked correct. I will try to brighten it up. I am leaning towards cropping more off the bottom. Do you concur?
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It may have been useful to pull back ever so slightly and use the foliage at right, instead of the picture frame, to cut off the train; and to allow the train to move a bit more forward, closing the gap between it and the signal at left.

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Carl, my view is entirely different. I don't think the shot is worth the effort. Take a nap, play with the kids, head out trackside 15 minutes sooner, lots of good uses for a bit of time.
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Carl, if you're dead set on vertical, go 4:5. It's too tall as it is.
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I got this accepted. It does not show the jointed rail on the main, but it's what the screener liked.

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I also got the eastbound coming out of the Blue Ridge Tunnel but at that time of day(15:30), my options were limited. I got a low contrast rejection. Would switching to B/W be an option or should I forget about it?

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RP likely wanted you to crop out that signal on the vertical shot to place the engine lower into the scene - yet they took the alternate crop which is just as out of place looking. My guess, another screener let the second shot in which was equally odd placed due to your desire to include something other then just the train. Likely, had you gotten the second sceener the first time around, the first pic would've been accepted.

I'm (I'd have been) with Janusz on this one - it would make a nice horizontal crop. You get to keep the signals while maintaining an appealing composition - things would be where they are "suppose" to be.

I'll add that the strive for perfection of such shots in the Forums is a bit crazy. Every shot can likely be better in someway - since when is RP about perfection? There are 455,000 photos for cripes sake. And included are notes, poop and wrecks.

As for your second rejection - when they give you a relatively clear and accurate reason for rejection, give it a whirl. "Low contrast" - increase the contrast. It does appear flat. Boost the contrast, or find a filter to "click" - ie; tonal contrast, clarity, brilliance, structure... ect.

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