Old 02-26-2009, 10:11 PM   #1
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Exclamation Rejected again!!! Appeal!!!!

This is a photo that I just uploaded. It got rejected because its "- Undersharpened (Soft)"

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:14 PM   #2
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Your image is soft, and could have easily been fixed with the a shot of sharpening. The two images you showed as comparasion are both sharper.

You may have a monitor issue if you are seeing them as being the same level of sharpness.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:24 PM   #3
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What is the name and where can I get this photo sharpening software. I dont have photoshop. Is there somewhere else?
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:28 PM   #4
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Your image was definitely way too soft, and if you ask me, there really isn't a need to get upset over it. It's an easy fix, providing you have the software. No need to get upset with the screeners, as I think the rejection was accurate.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:30 PM   #5
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GIMP and Picasa, both free.Its a nice shot, but why appeal when all you need is sharpening? Seems rather foolish, your just going to get on the screeners bad side.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:33 PM   #6
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Educate yourself:
http://www.railpictures.net/us/

As far as appeals go, it is a different set of eyes which look at the appeals.

Also, pretty much any photo needs some work done in a photo editing program. Photoshop Elements is good, costs ~$90. The others ones mentioned are free, but don't have as many features/control as Elements.

Once you get the software, you need to learn how to use it. Whichever software you choose, Google it for tutorials to learn how to use it properly.

Good luck...
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:43 PM   #7
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BTW, you really used 'amazing' to tag this thread? What's so 'amazing?'
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:51 PM   #8
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Agreed, take a close look at the numberboards. Not very sharp IMO....
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:55 PM   #9
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Then again, could it possibly be a combination of motion blur and softness? I know they do some pretty decent speeds along the NEC. Again though, I think sharpening the image would help a lot.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:57 PM   #10
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This is a photo that I just uploaded. It got rejected because its "- Undersharpened (Soft)" Yeah...Right......

Here is the photo, along with the appeal that I posted. Im posting it here on the forums because I am unaware weather an actual person or computer is processing the appeals. In the event that it is a computer, than this is for everyone to see the "Foolishness" of the screeners.

The Photo:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=317992096


The Appeal:

Photo has the same sharpness as the rest of these,
If my photo cant get in, then I dont see how any one elses could,
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=272053&nseq=1

Even less quality than mine, and photo quality is poor-http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=271513&nseq=4

same
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=270930&nseq=6

If you take the time to take a gander at the photos that I have just provided in the links above, you will realize that my photo deserves the right to get in, and that is, if this appeal process isnt just reviewed by a computer and automaticly rejected other than by an actual human being taking the time to thouroghly look at them. Also, I would request that you allow other screeners to make a decision other than the same screener who rejected my photo.
None of this will probably happen but at least I tried.

Have a nice day!
(ahem) The road you are going down is very, very bumpy. Better get some good shock absorbers if you continue.

Looks soft to me. But whether it is or not, do not concern yourself with what others have submitted as a "fairness test": remember one thing; this is not your site.

Just take any constructive criticism you get and work to improve your own work.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:02 PM   #11
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If you can't see the glaring difference in sharpness between your shot and the other ones you posted, then I suggest you get a new monitor. I had exactly this problem with my old monitor.

Somewhere on this forum is a tread from three years ago with me complaining about a blurry rejection that I thought was acceptablly sharp. On my new monitor, the shot in question is clearly blurry, but on my old one it looked just like a lot of shots in the database.
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Old 02-26-2009, 11:04 PM   #12
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Then again, could it possibly be a combination of motion blur and softness? I know they do some pretty decent speeds along the NEC. Again though, I think sharpening the image would help a lot.

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Nah, it's just plain soft. take a look at the fence between the tracks, and the over-head wires.
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Nah, it's just plain soft. take a look at the fence between the tracks, and the over-head wires.
Ahh, true. I didn't look at that previously. I was just focusing on the locomotive.

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Old 02-27-2009, 12:31 AM   #14
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Then again, could it possibly be a combination of motion blur and softness? I know they do some pretty decent speeds along the NEC.
Recall, though, that an object traveling directly at the camera has a very low relative velocity when compared to an object traveling perpendicular to the camera's view, and an object far away has a much smaller relative velocity than a nearby object (applicable to tele vs. wide lenses). I rarely shoot faster than 1/640s when aiming directly at an oncoming train with a telephoto lens because I simply never observe motion blurring in my images at such distances, regardless of train speed. Of course, I also shoot out in the western mountains, where last time I checked we don't have electrified 125mph mainlines...

Anyway, Smart Alec, you've got a decent concept going there. Find some editing software, massage the image a bit, re-submit, get it accepted and show us some more.
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:04 AM   #15
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You are on your way there. Good shot, but however, you will need to sharpen it a little more. Try to remember where you went wrong with this shot. Don't oversharpen it too much though. The numberboards give you a clue about where you need work.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:48 AM   #16
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When you get everything done to get the photo to make the data base
let us know what happens. This is a nice shot!
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