Old 08-31-2012, 06:20 AM   #1
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Should this not be "bad color" ????

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Old 08-31-2012, 06:37 AM   #2
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Vintage slide from a published (read: print) photographer, I might be inclined to give him a little leeway, too.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:51 AM   #3
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Really mixed feelings about this since its a kickass shot with a very rare power combination, and I certainly think it should be on the site. On the other hand they expect us ordinary folks to have to go back and adjust our sharpening .01 percent but for slides they dont even make them do basic color correction. This took 2 minutes and greatly improved the shot, and I'm not even that good at color correction.
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It would have been nice if they would had taken a little more time on the edit. Knocking down the blue hue and spot blurring the smoke to remove the grain makes a big difference and does not take more than a couple minutes. In the end, its still a great shot and I'm glad he shared it.

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Nikos, as one who has stood right in that very spot in that same year, your correction is not realistic. Way too saturated. But you have the right idea, though.
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Barry: if you are referring to Nikos' correction, I agree it is off. If you referring to Anthony's correction, then I'm not sure what you mean. Yes, the yellow is too strong, but from your saying "stood right in that very spot" you make it seem that there is something in the surroundings that Anthony has oversaturated; I don't see it.

In general, I find this sort of thing very frustrating. Here is one of my shots, 5 years earlier so even more "vintage" and yet I had to go through 7-8 iterations to get it "RP-right". I don't see why the shot discussed here got so much leeway. But RP is what it is.

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Vintage slide from a published (read: print) photographer, I might be inclined to give him a little leeway, too.
Irrelevant. A badly processed image is a badly processed image no matter who the photographer is.

Anthony appears to have nailed it.
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Vintage slide from a published (read: print) photographer, I might be inclined to give him a little leeway, too.
Wouldn't you want to hold those more experienced people more accountable?


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This took 2 minutes and greatly improved the shot
I would respectfully disagree with this.

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Anthony appears to have nailed it.
I agree, but does the original look a little unlevel to you?

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Wouldn't you want to hold those more experienced people more accountable?
The photographer was accountable. He submitted his shot to a screened website and they accepted it. With that said, I do agree that Anthony's version looks better in my mind, but I really don't care one or the other. Glad to see some of the guys who were around while I was still watching "Richie Rich" on Saturday mornings posting their images here.
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I agree, but does the original look a little unlevel to you?
The verticals on the nose of the lead loco look pretty level to me. What are you seeing?
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Something about this thread reminds me of my daughter running into the room to tell me that my son committed some misdeed, and standing there smiling while she waits for me to go yell at him.
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The verticals on the nose of the lead loco look pretty level to me. What are you seeing?
I guess the wide version looks off mostly when compared to his one.

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Anthony did much better than me but getting rid of the blue cast was the main issue. And I think I didnt go nearly far enough in trying to get rid of it.

Let me attempt me redeem myself from that terrible first attempt.....
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Anthony did much better than me but getting rid of the blue cast was the main issue. And I think I didnt go nearly far enough in trying to get rid of it.

Let me attempt me redeem myself from that terrible first attempt.....
Wow, you went to all that trouble to redo the image, just another image on another post on another thread in another forum, soon to be forgotten, but you have your personal standards, you don't want that take on the image to even for a split second be associated with you, so you go work on it, you give it your best and ...
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you muck it up again!

I've never seen teal in diesel exhaust! Wow! I suppose that is your artistic commentary, how the dirt of yesteryear has turned, with the passing of time and equipment, into something fondly, even joyfully remembered and treasured today! Teal!

I greatly prefer anthony's.
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............I've never seen teal in diesel exhaust! ........
It happens just east of Ty-D-Bol Bowl Springs.



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This is exactly why I'm not inclined to spend much time submitting my slide scans to RPnet. If I had submitted that shot - I would have got nailed for too much grain, bad color and not sharp enough. I see some really crappy slide scans get accepted, but mine don't make it for the above reasons. So why would I waste my time submitting them? It's truly screener roulette on slide scans. Sometime it happens, but most of the time not.
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Barry: if you are referring to Nikos' correction, I agree it is off. If you referring to Anthony's correction, then I'm not sure what you mean. Yes, the yellow is too strong, but from your saying "stood right in that very spot" you make it seem that there is something in the surroundings that Anthony has oversaturated; I don't see it.
I only saw Nikos' correction. That's why I said "Nikos,...."

Anthony's correction? there's just a box with a red X in it on my end; I didn't see it nor referenced it.

That whole surrounding, around the tunnel, has a brownish-slight pinkish hue due to the inherent nature of the granite overlaying the entire terrain. Not bluish. Ballast doesn't have bluish tint. Locomotive colors are way too saturated.

But he was right in indicating that the original was off also.
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I prefer the subdued image to the candyland versions. What a silly thread.
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