Old 07-08-2015, 03:17 AM   #1
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Some rejections are not totally unexpected but then one catches you by surprise. I suppose this should not have been but it was. I thought in this case the strong lighting and contrast was a plus, it is really side lit with full detail.

so I throw it out for comment.
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I did have a plan "B" but still like the first
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:29 AM   #2
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Well, what can one say. It is a very nice image. I can really see no reason for rejection. The "nose of the lead unit is too dark due to backlighting" rejection reason is at best a nit pick, at worst it is total bull: the plow is pretty well lit. Actually overall the train itself is very nicely lit. Somehow the store fronts don't do a lot for me, which I find a bit surprising, but they seem "flat". The dark porch detracts. I suppose one could say the image lacks drama, or some such highly judgemental thing. But I see no reason for a rejection under RP's stated rules, or just good sense. I certainly would appeal, but there is no point in fighting city hall. If RP doesn't accept it on appeal, post it on your Flickr site. You do have a Flickr site don't you?
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:39 AM   #3
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The plow could be better lit. The image is backlit: the sun is coming in from the back. The potential is there for the backlighting to work but as John said, it does seem to lack a certain "drama."
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:57 PM   #4
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I think it is more 'sidelit' than anything, but it works well. I like it, and hope it gets in.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:26 PM   #5
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Cool The real problem

"Backlit" is one of the best examples of the difficulty of having "rules" to govern the screening process, and having screeners cite the rules to justify a rejection. Backlit can be bad. But also some of the very best photographs in the world are the best because they are backlit. In this case in my opinion the back (or side) lighting adds to the picture. But the backlit rejection reason was simple, convenient, and the screener did not have to spend much time thinking about it. But the result was a rejection reason that had little or nothing to do with the real reason. Which leads to confusion and unhappiness amoung the folks who submit pix.
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I see nothing wrong with the light, but understand that RP rejects this stuff because that is their preference.

I think the composition is off-balance, too tight on the right, too loose on the left. Especially the former - although I recognize that the fragment in the lower right corner probably means you can't add to the right side.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:22 PM   #7
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Thanks for replies, appeal was already rejected so just throwing it out there to try to see if what I think is inline with what others think. Good point about it being tight, there were a few others out including Trains people, I was late arrival so had to watch my P & Q's location wise. This is a neat little town in Kettle-Moraine area of Wisconsin and I have spent so many times hiking the trails going way back, sometimes it is hard to separate personal experiences and emotions from the photo itself??? Another photo from the day was accepted so.....

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Their loss. Put it on flickr. Submit it to magazines.
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After thinking about Janusz' comment, I tried cropping some off the left. How about something like this. And perhaps the left side could be cropped even a bit more. I did't crop tighter because I like seeing a bit of the street, but the trade-off is it is in the shadow and cropping more minimizes that.
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From my POV, the important thing is that the plow is well lit. Worrying about the nose of the engine packed back in there strikes me as goofy.


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How exactly is the plow well lit? The entire left side of it is shaded and the right side as a big shadow on it.
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How exactly is the plow well lit? The entire left side of it is shaded and the right side as a big shadow on it.
The important part of the plow, i.e. the plow, is quite well lit. The rest of it is just a distraction.


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