Old 04-23-2009, 01:31 AM   #1
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Story: Last night, a severe thunderstorm that lasted about 5 minutes while I was down at Richmond's Acca Yard. All of a sudden, right after the storm, a strong sunlight cast in the sky forming a double rainbow. Before the second rainbow came out, Y291, the RCO job for the North Yard at Acca's SE of the Yard came out and it's nose stopped very close to the edge of the r-bow. Is there any chance at getting this photo in?

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:44 AM   #2
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Nice shot, Nathan. From what I can tell, the image suffers from a bit of noise/grain which is visible on the side of the engine as well as the rails in the foreground. I think you should increase the saturation some, perhaps crop off some of the bottom, but not too much, and run it through neat image as well. The power lines look a bit oversharpened, although the engine appears as being a bit soft.

My 0.2, hopefully you'll get some more feedback.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:59 AM   #3
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Good attempt but the noise is too much to handle. There's a few shots on the DB where I've seen worse, but standards have changed and are more strict right now. The wires are a little distracting also. I really can't say try a reshoot can I? haha, maybe the "wonder" will happen again. Good luck

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It won't get in.

- Too much noise
- Poor image quality
- Size (Dimensions)
- Poor color & Contrast
- Overall image is dark
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Hmm, overlooked the size dimensions. Good attempt though, Nathan.

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Old 04-23-2009, 06:34 PM   #6
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I went ahead and played with the photo in photoshop by messing with the cropping, hue/saturation settings, shadows and highlights/midtones, and adding a blue filter that very slightly brought out the blue more.

It got nailed for undersharpened(soft)

Any hope with it now, or should I put this in the ole RRPA Album and just make it a day to remember as a fun memory with the rainbow and having enjoyed the sight of it.

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I think this is too rare of a shot to let go easily, the original is not too bad, the noise is a issue though, I cant tell if the "noise" in the foreground is actually that or falling rain.
Here's my edit, managed to clear up the noise in the sky, did a little shadow highlights, curves, cropped and resized. I think it has a decent chance.
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I think this is too rare of a shot to let go easily,
I agree.

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the original is not too bad, the noise is a issue though, I cant tell if the "noise" in the foreground is actually that or falling rain.
Here's my edit, managed to clear up the noise in the sky, did a little shadow highlights, curves, cropped and resized. I think it has a decent chance.
Let's not forget that the most recent rejection was for sharpening. So sharpen it more. I suggest you select an area to sharpen so you can avoid sharpening the wires in the sky.
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Nathan, sharpening is easy. I thought the image did seem a bit soft. I'm also surprised it didn't get nabbed for the noise/grain which is now clearly visible in the sky.

I think the edit that Nikos did was the best. It looks pretty well exposed, and thankfully, the grain in the sky is no longer there.

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Old 04-24-2009, 05:50 PM   #10
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this time I sharpened the original reject for under sharpened and got bad cropping. I guess I should just let it go. Any last thoughts?
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I still see noise, but it hasn't got dinged for that in two tries, correct? If that were my shot, I would be inclined to apeeal with the following: "How can I crop and still keep all the elemtns that I want to keep?" Or some such. I only see a minor issue regarding cropping and that is the little sliver of rails at the very bottom. Of course, without the rainbow, this shot should be appealed for composition as it doesn't follow the typical meaning of Rules of Thirds. But this isn't a typical shot.

Keep trying. I once kept submittting different versions of the same shot fifteen times I bet, although spread out over a long time.

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Got nabbed for crop again. I took out the silver rail on the bottom. Is it too much sky?
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Nathan, you have other issues that are making this shot hard to get in. First off, learn to take care of the noise, as you'll have it in future shots as well. The color is off, it's soft, and suffers from poor image quality. You can't just crop it different, and expect it to get in.

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