Old 03-05-2011, 03:50 AM   #1
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Before anyone jumps on me, no, I did not submit this.

But this really beautiful SP Consolidation has confounded me now for nearly a decade (long before I started submitting here).

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to take a photograph of this locomotive... be it for this site, or for anywhere.

Short of a fish eye, which I don't like... anyone have any ideas? Am I missing something?
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:31 AM   #2
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Cherry picker, or take down the fence.
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Old 03-05-2011, 04:33 AM   #3
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I actually was thinking of bringing a ladder, but the damn thing is well over an hour from my house. But your post just gave me an idea... I'm going to have to think if I know anyone who owns a van.
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AND THEN USE THE LADDER! Now we are thinking.
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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
Railroad photography is what you make of it, but one way is not "better" than another, IMHO. Unless you have a pole right thought the nose of the engine! -SG
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Bolt cutters and hope the cops don't show up at night...

BTW, I don't know you.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:58 AM   #6
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I would hire a crew of mexicans which are here illegally to tear down the fence, then take the picture
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How Would You Shoot This?
Exactly as you did.
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I don't really see a way to shoot it without the fence unfortunately. I'd also save a Print Screen version of this page if you take Welch's advice and the LEOs do show up.
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How would you shoot this?
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Honestly, I think you're going to have a challenge if your trying to capture the whole engine, especially if you're looking to get a shot of it onto RP. Now I realize that we don't shoot (or most of us don't) everything with RP in mind. But I do think that the scene presents the opportunity for some creative detail shots that would make for great images, and might be RP material. Maybe a close-up shot or tight crop from slightly further to the right that gets the smokebox front, stack, and some of the wigwag, for instance?

Or you could try using one of these:


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I'm thinking spray-paint the fence black, then take the picture.
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and also have them wash and detail the loco while they are at it.
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and also have them wash and detail the loco while they are at it.
He could take some Navajos from Gallup. It'd make driving through there a little easier
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and also have them wash and detail the loco while they are at it.


Funniest thing I've read today.
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Way off topic, but I think you could do a shot of the wigwag signal with the out of focus number board of the locomotive in the background. I saw your thread about the wig wag PEQ, and I think that the signal at this location would work out much better than the signal in your shot that was featured in that thread.
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Funniest thing I've read today.
Lol X2.

You could borrow my truck and rip the fence down with it..
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and also have them wash and detail the loco while they are at it.
I 3rd this.

Maybe afterwards you can sick them on the Fullerton Foamers.
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Maybe afterwards you can sick them on the Fullerton Foamers.
Are we sure they would win?
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So, Charles, any of this help?
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So, Charles, any of this help?
Only in confirming my frustration that it can't really be shot.

I guess, if I knew someone with a van, willing to drive over 100 miles with me to take one shot and let me climb on their roof (or bring a really long ladder in their van), I might get a cool shot... it's a museum though, and I have a sense that I'd be kicked out of there by security before I got the ladder open.
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I dont think museums have security.... Which is good news!
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Haven't laughed so hard until I clicked on Steve on the lawnmower that came up next, now that is hilarious.
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I climbed a fence and shot an NP engine in Montana but shooting that tight from that perspective did not yield a pleasing image.

I recall reading somewhere that you could take two images at VERY slightly different angles and then mesh them together removing certain obstructions along the way. It may have be a specific software program - can't recall.

Of course, what you have is not bad if you can get better light on the drivers.

If so, find a screener other then the one that rejected my obstructed train behind the fence and look for the one that Dennis Livesey found:

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