Old 03-07-2011, 03:07 AM   #1
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These two night shots got kicked for backlighting. True, there were light poles behind the train in both shots. Obviously there was no switch to turn them off, or I would have.

That being said, I have underframe detail in both, especially the UP shot, and the backgrounds aren't blown out.

So what say you? Appeal, or just let it go?
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:08 AM   #2
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Sometimes it seems a computer program is accepting or rejecting images and playing every rule in the book iron clad despite the significant positives in some images which should help circumvent certain lesser issues.

The only thing I can think of is: "...or doesn't feature enough light on the nose".

Each work for me for lighting and being better then average accepted images on RP but the UP shot is not much more then a cut off roster type shot. The Salt Lake shot is pretty cool. I'd appeal and hope you get a screener who can read between the lines in the RP play book.

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Old 03-07-2011, 04:16 AM   #3
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I really like the second one. Except for the huge light above it, but overall a very nice image.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:11 PM   #4
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On the UP shot, did you take any frames that weren't so tight? With the lighting, I would have gone wider and incorporated more of the surrondings istead of what is essentially a roster shot of two engines. Also, it needs CW rotating.

The seond one should have passed the backlit test, but the train is too centered in the frame. I'd recrop and try again.
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:57 PM   #5
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The front of the lead unit is dark to the point that you cannot make the coupler out, and the cropping leaves you with a roster type composition. Because it's at night isn't a good enough reason for acceptance in my opinion.

I'd try a different crop on the second shot, and maybe a smidge of color balance work. I'd almost advocate cloning that light out too... almost

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Old 03-07-2011, 03:46 PM   #6
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Don't care for the first one, but the second has potential. That light over the loco is just killing it for me though. Perhaps you could get down lower and a little closer, thus hiding the light behind the top of the train? If you can do that, you may also need to do a little perspective control. But eliminating that light would be my first priority. If that's not possible, maybe take some multiple exposures and mask out the blown out light with a properly exposed one?
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