Old 02-22-2010, 06:50 PM   #1
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:55 PM   #2
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They were rejected for legit reasons, Mike.

The first one is nice, but needs to be positioned a bit better and definitely a tighter crop in my opinion. It appears to be a bit soft, too.

As for the second one, simply sharpen it. It appears as so it could receive a hair of CCW rotation as well.

The third one simply has too tight of a crop. Give the image a bit more breathing room on the left.

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Old 02-22-2010, 07:06 PM   #3
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Got some big time potential there Mike, don't get too frustrated. They're simple adjustments and you'll be set!
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Mike, on the first do you have one with the engine about 100feet further ahead? If so I think the shot may work better. I still like it alot!

Below is what I came up with, with the engine a tad bit forward the shot would even out better I believe.
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The first one has some dust spots that need removed.

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Hmm, didnt know Carhartt existed back in the day.
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Mike, the 3rd one is good, just give it more room on the left as stated above. Everything else with the shot looks good.

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Hey Mike - this should make you feel better...

The reasons listed seem legit, as were the reasons listed on my own which initially included a combination of cropping and /or noise. The (a?) screener on RP seems to have little tolerance when it comes to observing the rule of thirds and a distaste for open space (excess sky or foreground).

While I see the merit in most instances, sometimes other factors outweigh balance such as inclusion of multiple subjects - plume, buildings, full train, implying wide openness, ect.

Other times, however, those factors do not. The balance still outweighs those factors. It's all a matter of personal tastes. Though I like to stick to a standard crop, I had to square off my dog shot and loose some buildings to the right on my glint shot - both initially had too much sky. At ISO 1250 there was a bit of noise which had to be toned down for the night action shot. The early AM shot got in on appeal.

For your 3 images - the plow shot is just too dead center with too much dull foreground. You'll need to loose the yard or shift the image up. With sufficient resolution, you could crop down and just show the plow and engine. Your second image is soft as stated. You can resharpen or some of the noise plugins have a sharpening feature that works without the halo. Or you may be able to selectively sharpen where the image seems most soft which could be due to the aperture or focal point. As for the last image, it is rather tight - hopefully you shot the scene a bit wider and have something to work with.

All in all, good stuff and full of potential

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Hmm, didnt know Carhartt existed back in the day.

Actually- since 1889!

http://www.carhartt.com/webapp/wcs/s...atalogId=10101
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Touche! Didnt know that!
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Hey Mike - this should make you feel better...

The reasons listed seem legit, as were the reasons listed on my own which initially included a combination of cropping and /or noise. The (a?) screener on RP seems to have little tolerance when it comes to observing the rule of thirds and a distaste for open space (excess sky or foreground).

While I see the merit in most instances, sometimes other factors outweigh balance such as inclusion of multiple subjects - plume, buildings, full train, implying wide openness, ect.

Other times, however, those factors do not. The balance still outweighs those factors. It's all a matter of personal tastes. Though I like to stick to a standard crop, I had to square off my dog shot and loose some buildings to the right on my glint shot - both initially had too much sky. At ISO 1250 there was a bit of noise which had to be toned down for the night action shot. The early AM shot got in on appeal.

For your 3 images - the plow shot is just too dead center with too much dull foreground. You'll need to loose the yard or shift the image up. With sufficient resolution, you could crop down and just show the plow and engine. Your second image is soft as stated. You can resharpen or some of the noise plugins have a sharpening feature that works without the halo. Or you may be able to selectively sharpen where the image seems most soft which could be due to the aperture or focal point. As for the last image, it is rather tight - hopefully you shot the scene a bit wider and have something to work with.

All in all, good stuff and full of potential

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And Walter, I just submitted your version of the sunset shot and got rejected for being undersharpened. Looks fine to me.... http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=624892489
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Sharpen it up a little more. However, you have a square crop. There should be about a 3:2 ratio on dimensions. I would crop a little off of the bottom if I were you.
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Sharpen it up a little more. However, you have a square crop. There should be about a 3:2 ratio on dimensions. I would crop a little off of the bottom if I were you.
Your eyesight is weak, that is 3:2 already.

I don't think it is just sharpening. It looks like the camera focused on the nearby snow. The train looks soft, the tree is completely soft.

Ultimately I don't think this will work for RP. The train and sun are just too far apart, there is too much empty space top and bottom. You needed to be standing a good bit farther to the right, I think, to get the sun and train closer together.
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Really? Maybe I should get my eyes checked, because it looks squarish to me.
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Really? Maybe I should get my eyes checked, because it looks squarish to me.
Perhaps it's time to make an appointment with the opthamologist?
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Oh yeah. I couldn't see the full picture on my screen, so it looked taller than it really was.
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