Old 04-26-2013, 02:40 PM   #26
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Whoa chief, not questioning the accuracy of your explanation.

I am unfamiliar with NIKON equipment and I doubt the OP knows about the cropping issue which is why I brought it up.

Whoa chief roco, not questioning your question, merely pointing out that I had thought I had already answered it (albeit unclearly).

As to the cropping issue, these days I find it is less and less of interest, as I tend more and more to think in APS-C terms rather than FF terms. So I don't do the focal length translation in my head much anymore. (And I'll have to reconvert, some day down the road, when I suppose I will end up at FF again.) Whether it is 18 or equivalent 27, my suspicion is that he simply didn't have a wider lens at hand.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:52 PM   #27
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So after all of this back and forth about things unrelated to the photograph, I would like to point out that Charles and I were right about the crop.



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................... Whether it is 18 or equivalent 27, my suspicion is that he simply didn't have a wider lens at hand.
I suspected that, but to assume is a little condescending, hence the basis of my inquiry.

I was just amazed how much wider my 16-35 mm got when I started using a full frame camera.

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Old 04-26-2013, 10:57 PM   #29
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Isn't 10mm cool?

Oh, wait, you FF folk are stuck with the old fashioned "16mm" moniker.

PS: "condescending"? One can not own wider lenses for any number of reasons, so no such judgment should be inferred, so the word police will be around shortly, I think, to smite you for such word usage. Beware!

Or is it the thought police that will make a call?
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.....PS: "condescending"....
No, I did not want to assume the OP was using a basic model camera with a kit lens.

BTW - I am going to go shoot some things with my old Rebel and the kit len(s) and see how they stack up to the expensive stuff.

Now this is going to be daylight stuff with not so fast action because at the extreme ends of the photo spectrum, the good stuff kicks butt over the kit and basic models.

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PS: "condescending"? One can not own wider lenses for any number of reasons, so no such judgment should be inferred, so the word police will be around shortly, I think, to smite you for such word usage. Beware!
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Please do your job and knock El Roco around a bit, he is in need of straightening out! There's a donut in it for ya!

(Oh, gosh, what is the right way to spell donut? doughnut? I could be in big trouble...)
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So I don't do the focal length translation in my head much anymore. (And I'll have to reconvert, some day down the road, when I suppose I will end up at FF again.)

I don't bother with focal length calculations either. For me it would be EXTRA confusing! Just in the past week I've shot a 4x5 camera, a 6x9 medium format, a 35mm Leica, and a Nikon D7100. It's kind of pointless for me to worry about the actual numbers. I have a long zoom, a medium zoom, and a really really wide zoom! I leave it at that. As for FF, I sometimes use a D800, more often a D7000 to photo weddings for well paying couples. Not a single customer can tell if I used a D800 or a D7000. Even I can't tell shots made from the D800 from those made with the D7100 now. There are a lot of advantages for DX for shooting trains, so I use only the D7100 for that.

I went out today and only brought one camera--a Kodak Brownie (6x9 format) made in 1902! I had a blast with it, and am sure I got some great shots. I paid about ten bucks for it on eBay; it works perfectly!


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So where can we see the most outstanding results of all this fine effort? Links please! Especially the wedding photos!
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Please do your job and knock El Roco around a bit.......
You're (used it right, right?) going to need to stand in line to knock me around.

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You're (used it right, right?) going to need to stand in line to knock me around.
I'm sure you get knocked around quite a bit, however I do feel it is important that an officer of the (linguistic) law take the time to do a formal rousting and harassing. It's an important process within civilized society!
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So where can we see the most outstanding results of all this fine effort? Links please! Especially the wedding photos!
I only give out the wedding shots to prospective customers. It took me some time to put it together and I'm very paranoid about it getting hacked and shut down. Here's a link to a string of shots I did for one project. None of them are what the screeners here are looking for, but I had a lot of fun creating them. Mostly I used my c.1951 Rolleiflex Automat 4 with Fomapan 100 film (Fomapan: the film made for foamers!) The lens on that camera is a classic Zeiss Tessar 7.5cm, an early coated sample. It's a good representation of shots I made with that camera. The title "Square Trains" should be obvious. I did do a little color work too, using Portra 400. Trains shot at night were lit by #25 flash bulbs. They are plentiful and relatively cheap on eBay.

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