Old 12-21-2016, 07:52 PM   #1
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The first two pics (Trolley & Trolley 2.0) were rejected for composition; I changed the composition to move the trolley more to the left in the second picture (2.0) but received the same rejection. For reference, I have attached the full picture as well. Any thoughts on fixing the composition and whether this photo has any realistic hope of acceptance would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:51 PM   #2
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Not a bad scene, and your exposure is very good, but I think you're doomed with the foreground obstructions. The Toyota on the right and the short yellow poles (?) near the back of the trolley aren't doing you any favors. With a clearer view of the trolley, this might have been a winner.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:52 PM   #3
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The first two pics (Trolley & Trolley 2.0) were rejected for composition; I changed the composition to move the trolley more to the left in the second picture (2.0) but received the same rejection. For reference, I have attached the full picture as well. Any thoughts on fixing the composition and whether this photo has any realistic hope of acceptance would be greatly appreciated.
It's a nice scene, but I think the obstructing taxi will be a problem no matter how you crop it. Any chance of re-shooting this?
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Ah, I hoped for a different answer, but y'all told me what I had started to figure out in my slow way--the poles are what I saw as primarily being the problem. I probably can shoot it next time we go to a game, but I certainly don't have anything else from this series that will work. I suspect getting an unobstructed photo due to traffic and people crossing probably will be difficult at any time, but next time I'll have a chance to prepare for it more so maybe I can make it work then. Too bad, though--the train crossing above it made for a nice shot, which is why I was motivated to do what I could with the photo. Thanks for the comments regarding what did work about the shot, too--that helps me a lot.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:27 PM   #5
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Ha! I hadn't even noticed the train. Now that you mention it, it does add a nice subtle touch. Damn it for taxis and poles!
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You know, Jim, that's funny because I didn't notice the train when I took the shot and actually didn't notice it until later in the processing. Now, it frustrates me that I've missed the shot I didn't know I had. Arggghhh!
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Old 12-21-2016, 11:21 PM   #7
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I remember one from ??, so much stuff you could only see parts of the the Trolley, it was really a street scene with street car parts somewhere.

Obstruction can work pretty well, not sure of yours, but



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Guess I am not so observant, had to look for the yellow poles??? what I don't like are random parts of autos in photo
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Old 12-22-2016, 04:27 AM   #8
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I remember one from ??, so much stuff you could only see parts of the the Trolley, it was really a street scene with street car parts somewhere.

Obstruction can work pretty well, not sure of yours, but



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Guess I am not so observant, had to look for the yellow poles??? what I don't like are random parts of autos in photo
Belmont's shot is a composition - note the diagonal lineup of 4 commuting vehicles, two bikes, a car, and a trolley, all facing the camera in a pleasing diagonal line, a street scene with structure. By contrast the shot in question is more of a grab shot.
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Thanks everyone for the helpful comments and points. I will move on from this one.
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