Old 11-21-2011, 04:13 AM   #1
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Default First PCA vote..

...I ever made was for this one by David. I really like it.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=381692

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Old 11-21-2011, 01:44 PM   #2
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I'm guessing Dave gets a fair number of PCA votes every week. He puts a lot of time and effort into the hobby and it shows.

If you want to show the thumbnail in the post you use the brackets [***] around photoid=XXXXXX, where the X's are the ID number of the photo, 381692.

In this case

Image © David Honan
PhotoID: 381692
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:13 PM   #3
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Thanks, I tried your suggestion, but didn't get it to work. Must be doing something wrong. I'll play with it and figure it out.
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Perhaps a simpler explanation might be do this: (photoid=381692) but use square brackets [ ] in place of ( )
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Another by Dave. Could be a PCA nominee?

Image © David Honan
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:18 PM   #6
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Another by Dave. Could be a PCA nominee?

Image © David Honan
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Saw that one too. Great shot, but didn't speak to me like the other one did.

Got it to work. Thanks.
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I don't think the second image is really PCA material, but it's certainly a really nice photo. My thoughts for it are summed up in the comment I left on the image.

The first image is well within PCA material. Beautiful capture by Mr. Honan. He's truly one of the best photogs here on RP.

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Old 11-22-2011, 12:30 AM   #8
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I don't think the second image is really PCA material, but it's certainly a really nice photo. My thoughts for it are summed up in the comment I left on the image.

The first image is well within PCA material. Beautiful capture by Mr. Honan. He's truly one of the best photogs here on RP.

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Nope, Chase....you're dead wrong. That shot is big time PCA material---one hell of a dramatic "capture" (that would be a "photo" in my day).

Expound, if you will, on what constitutes "...well within PCA material..."? What part of "People's" did you not get?
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The first image is well within PCA material. Beautiful capture by Mr. Honan. He's truly one of the best photogs here on RP.

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...I meant to add that the first image was merely okay....but not PCA material, in my considered opinion. The second one, however, was a killer shot....clearly PCA (although I never vote on those things, so my opinion is pretty meaningless).
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Tastes vary; I am with Chase. In particular, the second is a snow wedgie, beautiful, might make PCA, but frankly in my book there have been too many such shots taken for this one to rise to PCA level. So I define "killer" in part by how often I see something.
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Tastes vary; I am with Chase. In particular, the second is a snow wedgie, beautiful, might make PCA, but frankly in my book there have been too many such shots taken for this one to rise to PCA level. So I define "killer" in part by how often I see something.
We can disagree on that one and still be friends....but I'm sticking to my opinion.
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Nope, Chase....you're dead wrong. That shot is big time PCA material---one hell of a dramatic "capture" (that would be a "photo" in my day).

Expound, if you will, on what constitutes "...well within PCA material..."? What part of "People's" did you not get?
Explain to me how I can be "dead wrong", when you contradict yourself in saying that it's the "People's choice" that determine whether a photo gets nominated or not. That would indicate it is subjective in which your statement couldn't be any more "dead wrong" and I actually have the facts behind that.

Janusz nailed it on the head, the angle in which Dave captured the second photo is a bit more common. While the composition is pleasing and occupied pretty nicely, the angle and "wow" factor are simply not enough to warrant a PCA in my opinion. Do I like the photo? Oh, certainly! That's evident by my comment. I even prefer the image over the other one.

The first photo is a bit more a unique composition and scene and strikes me more as PCA material, based on what has been nominated before. When you spend as much time on RP as I do, I think you get a feel for when a photo is going to do well in the views. That particular photo caught my attention (while perhaps the other one may not catch the attention of others, merely on the fact of the unique and common angle).

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We can disagree on that one and still be friends....but I'm sticking to my opinion.
Ditto! And I'm glad you are still around!

I'm too lazy tonight to respond to you in the other thread. Can't debate over this stuff all the time! It's just a hobby, as you have said over and over.

I need to find a slide scan worth doing up, or something. Time to walk the walk instead of talk the talk!

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Explain to me how I can be "dead wrong", when you contradict yourself in saying that it's the "People's choice" that determine whether a photo gets nominated or not. That would indicate it is subjective in which your statement couldn't be any more "dead wrong" and I actually have the facts behind that.
What? Chase....for cryin' out loud....you're a SCREENER at RP! You're establishing yourself as making the "people's choice" every time you accept or reject an image that's submitted. Sorry....I can't really follow the rest of your syntax.

The first photo is okay....but it's a so-so vertical. It doesn't really float my boat---and I've been looking at untold hundreds of thousands of choo-choo photos for 63 years now. That's my opinion. Besides, if I had uploaded it, it would have probably been rejected as "unlevel" or "blurry."

The second shot is far superior, and again, that's an honest opinion---
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What? Chase....for cryin' out loud....you're a SCREENER at RP! You're establishing yourself as making the "people's choice" every time you accept or reject an image that's submitted. Sorry....I can't really follow the rest of your syntax.

The first photo is okay....but it's a so-so vertical. It doesn't really float my boat---and I've been looking at untold hundreds of thousands of choo-choo photos for 63 years now. That's my opinion. Besides, if I had uploaded it, it would have probably been rejected as "unlevel" or "blurry."

The second shot is far superior, and again, that's an honest opinion---
I would like to see how the first photo would look as a horizontal, but vertical does work well.

This is the beauty of photography discussion. The opinions and while everyone has one, it's neat to get their perspective and have a civilized conversation.

63 years of railroad photography? That's incredible. I can only imagine all of the change you've seen, not only in the railroads, but with the development of different photography techniques and equipment. You should write a book!

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Well I started this mess and I still like the first one. Photographic art is like any other art, it is successful when it tells a story and strikes a chord or generates an emotion in the viewer. The first one does that for me. The second one, not so much. Ron is right. I am right. Chase is right. We each have our own unique set of filters we view the world through, created by our own personal history and experience.

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A History of Railroad Photography, by Ron Flanary

In which I experience the entirety of its history personally, starting with the first image of a train, taken in the 19th century.

In which I develop my skills for decades and decades, leading to the ultimate achievement for rail photographers, the lauded designation "Old Fart"

In which I trash hundreds and hundreds of rolls of film, like the best Sports Illustrated photographer, capture images worthy of posterity, publish images in dozens of magazines, and in my crotchety old age, turn to "the best railroad photos on the 'net" as my last hope of salvation

New, for the second edition! My experiences with RP. I was there at the beginning ... now I fear the end ... No one ever told my my eyeglasses are unlevel ...
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I did. It's titled "Tracks of My Years." It's not that good....but I'll be glad to send you a copy (the only self-published book I've done).

I've also authored or co-authored five other books for various publishers.

That said....I'm no expert. Also, I've lived nearly 64 years---but I was ten when I started taking train photos. None of those shots are on Rail Pictures.
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A History of Railroad Photography, by Ron Flanary

In which I experience the entirety of its history personally, starting with the first image of a train, taken in the 19th century....New, for the second edition! My experiences with RP. I was there at the beginning ... now I fear the end ... No one ever told my my eyeglasses are unlevel ...
That's right...with Rail Pictures I'm regressing. It's getting worse rather than better.
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Thanks for the kind (if occasionally hyperbolic) comments, everyone. Personally, I'm much more partial to the first shot since I greatly prefer to set a train within a scene instead of simply taking a photo of a train. Seriously, look at my portfolio on here -- how many train-in-your-face shots are there? That's just not my style; such stuff bores me. But hey, that's the great thing about being human: The two things we all have in common are that we possess opinions and, um, donkey orifices. Sure, sometimes they smell, but it's part and parcel of who and what we are, and so long as we accept that we'll get along.

By the way, Ron, fair warning: If you don't want to see 20-odd minutes of non-boring-wedgie shots, now's the time to find an excuse for begging out of your traditional August MC duties. Big O invited me to present next summer...
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By the way, Ron, fair warning: If you don't want to see 20-odd minutes of non-boring-wedgie shots, now's the time to find an excuse for begging out of your traditional August MC duties. Big O invited me to present next summer...
...If Big O asked you to do a show, I'm sure it'll be fantastic. I'll be there!
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...If Big O asked you to do a show, I'm sure it'll be fantastic. I'll be there!
Me too! Oh I plan on it every year but I would look forward to it.
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I need to get my butt to one of these slide shows sometime.

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So, how does one find out about such things?
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