Old 12-29-2010, 04:38 AM   #1
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As I was submitting this shot, I thought "well this will certainly get dinged for shadows and something about cropping or train too far away." It turns out I must be good...at predicting rejects, not photography, that is So, at any rate, I sort of like this shot (perhaps I'm biased since I grew up beside this RR plus I get overly excited about snow down here), so I need unbiased opinions.

IMHO, the shots with the train closer are just boring as that defeats my purpose of having the snow covered tracks lead up to the train, and the shadows aren't really distracting to me.

Here 'tis. Have at it! Thanks!

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Old 12-29-2010, 04:56 AM   #2
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Hi folks,

As I was submitting this shot, I thought "well this will certainly get dinged for shadows and something about cropping or train too far away." It turns out I must be good...at predicting rejects, not photography, that is So, at any rate, I sort of like this shot (perhaps I'm biased since I grew up beside this RR plus I get overly excited about snow down here), so I need unbiased opinions.

IMHO, the shots with the train closer are just boring as that defeats my purpose of having the snow covered tracks lead up to the train, and the shadows aren't really distracting to me.

Here 'tis. Have at it! Thanks!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=853342723
Honestly, I see no chance of this getting on. I don't even get what the point of the photo is.

Sorry!
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:38 AM   #3
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I think you could still have some snow covered tracks visible if you bring the engine closer to you.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:03 PM   #4
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IMHO, the shots with the train closer are just boring as that defeats my purpose of having the snow covered tracks lead up to the train, and the shadows aren't really distracting to me.
I agree...I like it. I might crop it a bit tighter, but I like the placement of the loco. This photo isn't so much about the train to me, but rather where it's about to go...the curving, snow-covered rails.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #5
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Not as many shadows but almost the same shot:

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Nick, I would crop a little on the left (up to the green shrub in the sun), and balance that with a little off the bottom. There'd still be plenty of snow-covered rails visible, and the engine would be brought a little closer.

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Old 12-29-2010, 01:48 PM   #6
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I agree with Jim and Chris. There's a RP shot in there wanting to get out. The black engine on the white snow is a nice contrast. Might need a little CCW leveling though.
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:02 PM   #7
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I like it. Really has a feel of being in the woods along a shortline. The snow on the rail is very nice. Take a bit off the bottom and maybe work the dark areas just a hair. I would like to see the locomotive poped out of the trees just a bit.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:30 PM   #8
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Not as many shadows but almost the same shot:

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Nick, I would crop a little on the left (up to the green shrub in the sun), and balance that with a little off the bottom. There'd still be plenty of snow-covered rails visible, and the engine would be brought a little closer.

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Thanks for posting that, Chris. When I posted earlier I was thinking I've seen shots similar to this before, but I didn't have the time to go searching for a reference shot. Andrew's shot is a perfect example of why the rejected shot has a chance with the proper cropping.
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I am also a fan of the shot, Nick... I would go with the others, a little bit of cropping (not too much).

If the shadows are a non-starter, then it went get through, but I frankly am not bothered by them.
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Contra everyone, I see huge differences between Andrew's shot and Nick's. Andrews has strong elements distinguished by color, red engine, green evergreen (partially obstructed), and white track connecting the two.

In Nick's shot the engine disappears in the background, the dark area upper left is a blob, the foliage lower right is well blurred, and there is too much foreground. The lights of the engine are insufficient to have it stand out. I'm not a fan.

This might do better in BW, the light brown foliage in the middle and the shadowed snow will go gray and the black engine will stand out more. I would still reduce the foreground, perhaps cropping so as to get rid of whatever that spot is in the snow about 30% from the right, just up from the bottom.

I vaguely remember a different Andrew shot, not in snow, but with a very similar tangent feeding into curve with the engine placed well back from the foreground. Can't find it, oh well. Maybe it isn't his.
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I was gonna hold my tongue, but I wont:

Your shot the black engine + dark background make it a deal breaker.

I'm not a huge fan of Andrew's shot either, i'm not going to say any more than that.

BUT the fact that his locomotive is RED helps his cause considerably. It helps the locomotive stand out.
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Thanks for the opinions and suggestions, folks. However, it appears the shadows are still a no-go. I have to agree with you J, that Andrew's shot is a much more appealing variation on the theme.

Here is try #2:
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:03 PM   #13
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BW: not great, but the engine does stand out more. Not a fan of the strong headlights, but then I didn't play with it very long.
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I was gonna make a joke, but it would be in poor taste in light of some of the recent events

Januz, I think your edit blows out the highlights in the snow too much, but with some work I think is better than the original

How about this? Maybe still too dark? (NOTE: I also leveled it 2deg CCW)

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I like Troy's B&W version much more than J's version (sorry, J) though like Troy mentioned, the shadows are still a little dark. After seeing both, I like the B&W version better than the color, and I think with a little bit of editing, this should get on.

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I like Troy's B&W version much more than J's version (sorry, J) though like Troy mentioned, the shadows are still a little dark. After seeing both, I like the B&W version better than the color, and I think with a little bit of editing, this should get on.

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Thanks for the opinions and suggestions, folks. However, it appears the shadows are still a no-go. I have to agree with you J, that Andrew's shot is a much more appealing variation on the theme.

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Are the offending shadows on the nose? When I look at this picture, the train is not the primary subject to me, hence any imperfections on the nose of the loco are irrelevant (IMO). That patchwork in the snow created by the shadows along with the bumpy, snow-covered rails is what really stands out to me. The train could have been any color and I still would have liked the image as much.
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Accepted on appeal. Thanks for the advice folks. I like it much better now than the original version.

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Accepted on appeal. Thanks for the advice folks. I like it much better now than the original version.

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Just goes to show you what a little processing and getting the right screener can do. It is top of 24 now...
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Deserving Tof24, too! Good job, Nick! Very cool shot.

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