Old 07-25-2010, 03:18 PM   #1
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Hi all, any thoughts on this one:

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Unfortunately I didnt get the full loco in on the original shot, so I am thinking I should crop away the back part of the loco but not sure how much, or would they prefer in a shot like this that I show the whole loco?

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Old 07-25-2010, 03:28 PM   #2
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I personally don't think this shot has any chance of getting on. You didn't get the whole engine which was important and there is no other object in the image which makes it stand out. There were several things you cut off. The power lines in the image are very distracting as well. Not a bad pan. Try again!

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Old 07-25-2010, 03:39 PM   #3
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The power lines in the image are very distracting as well.
It's CATENARY! It is an ELECTRIC engine! It belongs! Harrumph.

Actually, I see that as the problem, in reverse. Besides the cab, there is a lot of interesting stuff in the upper right, but cut off. The catenary support, the pantograph, interesting but cutoff. I wish you had gone wider.
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:54 PM   #4
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I would have loved to see the whole engine in the scene. Otherwise, I don't think the shot works that well.
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:16 PM   #5
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Seeing the entire engine would be nice. There are quite a few panned cut off engines in the data base, so I don't see that that should be a deal breaker. The engine is a sort of a slab side, but the truck detail is very interesting. Engineer is also visible.

May I suggest something like this?

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Old 07-25-2010, 06:00 PM   #6
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I was thinking the same thing about the trucks
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Old 07-25-2010, 06:46 PM   #7
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I personally don't think this shot has any chance of getting on. You didn't get the whole engine which was important...

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I'm a fan of catching the entire engine but there are many, many pans on RP that only show just the nose.

My guess is you violated the simplest of all RP rules by placing the engine right in the center of the image. Try a crop where it is instead placed higher up or lower down in one of the "other" thirds of the composition.

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Old 07-26-2010, 06:13 AM   #8
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I went for a crop like the one Chris showed but it was rejected again, for soft this time so I think this cropping is better. I will give it another try later today, thanks also for the other ideas.
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