Old 12-31-2009, 03:07 AM   #1
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http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=801104

When bad shots get good feedback. Not picking on this particular post just one I choose. There are so many. Those of you that get hard truthful critism here should be thankful. It will help a lot of you.
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:35 AM   #2
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Somehow I have 2200 posts on that forum. I haven't posted there much since finding this forum, and it was because of that forum that I found this one.
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:39 AM   #3
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All I have to say is, I am glad RP.net/forums don't have those obnoxious ads!
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:49 AM   #4
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So.... who goes first? He said he wanted C&C.
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Old 12-31-2009, 04:22 AM   #5
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:59 PM   #6
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Over the nearly two years that I've been here on the forums, the topic of feedback to new photographers is one that has really piqued my interest.

I agree that providing detailed, candid, objective feedback to photographers who ask for it is a very good thing and will, in the long-run, help those folks improve. Making mistakes and correcting them is a key part of the learning process, but when we're new to a particular endeavour, we often don't have the experience to recognize our mistakes. Having an experienced person to put their arm around us, point out the issues and tell us how we can do it better yields good feelings all around....both for the newbie, who needs someone to help break the frustration cycle and for the helper, who walks away with the satisfaction of having done something good for another person.

I would also agree with anyone who observes that some folks have a difficult time providing criticism in a manner that is really helpful. Inserting subjective terms into the critique such as: "sucks", "junk", "just kills it", and "suffers terribly from" comes across as abusive rather than constructive. There are forum offenses that dictate counseling and offenses that dictate spanking. Submitting a poor quality photo and asking for help is not a spanking offense in my humble opinion. In as much as the submitter's photography skills might need some substantial improvement, critiques containing such terms speak equally poorly of the critic's skills as a mentor.

While the vast majority of the feedback provided here on the RP forums is constructive and helpful, my hope for 2010 is that we can continue to improve on our mentoring skills as well as our photography skills. When we post to help somebody, let's all make the extra effort to make it sound like we're being helpful, rather than hurtful. Tell 'em what the issues are, then tell 'em what they need to do to fix it. A little encouragement never hurts either. As they say: Kindness costs nothing!
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:07 PM   #7
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:33 PM   #8
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Tha Canon forums are great. Lot of great photos and advice. I bet they are better then any Nikon forums, but we all know that. haha
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All I have to say is, I am glad RP.net/forums don't have those obnoxious ads!

Yeah I enjoy the pop up adds from RP better, and the occasional pornographic ad that slips in (been a year or so, but it has happened)
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The main poster in there that said the images are good does that to anybody, I think he does it to make his post count higher. Every time a new set of photos is posted he posts "good photos"

I do not think that one forum is better than another, if you only use ONE source as your source for help and tips, you will not be learning much. Thats why I post my photos in multiple forums, ranging from photography forums to forums where no one is a photographer. Its always interesting to see what different people say and suggest, on here the suggestions will be different than on a forum where not everyone is a train geek.
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