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Old 03-24-2015, 04:48 AM   #1
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Default I don't understand this rejection!! Can someone please explain to me in detail?

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Old 03-24-2015, 04:56 AM   #2
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Had to reconstruct the url - here it is for others.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...89&key=4238511

An extreme angle (which this is) is one that is very sharp in an unpleasant way (it's not head on and it's not a 3/4 - it's somewhere between that is not aesthetically pleasing).

That being said, they probably would have accepted it had you not left so much dead space in the middle between the train and the building. Do you have a later frame covering the dead space?
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:00 AM   #3
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I do have one, and will resubmit it after touching it up to adjust color/exposure/etc.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:04 AM   #4
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I don't see it as an extreme angle - more a rule of thirds, "bad crop", as the train is pretty much centered in the scene, top to bottom. I agree with Charles, however - bring the train closer will bring the train lower in the frame while eliminating the uninteresting gap between the train the building. If that's a shadow on the nose, that'll be removed as well.

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Old 03-24-2015, 05:13 AM   #5
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Thanks guys!! I will see what I can do with a later frame that should have improved composition.
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:37 PM   #6
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I would greatly prefer the frame in between these two. The second version takes away the impact of the scene.

EDIT: oops the OP has that shot in another thread. No need to start a second thread, amtrakboy!
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:01 PM   #7
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I tried to load the sample image in this same thread, but kept getting the message: "Internet explorer has stopped working." So I was forced to start the other thread. Sorry to cause confusion. LOL
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:19 PM   #8
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I think the "bad angle" is where you're standing in relation to the train's placement in the scene. A few steps back to show a little more of the side along with the background elements, as well as a frame or two later would have created a more pleasing composition, IMO. Seems a little nitpicky, but my first thought upon opening the rejection was, "Why did he stand so close to the tracks?"
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Old 03-28-2015, 04:50 PM   #9
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Default The Angle is hardly the issue.

The composition with the train teetering on the edge is the issue. From where you were standing, and assuming you wanted that building with the sign in the photo (which is why I'm assuming you framed it the way you did), you would have needed a much wider lens, and you would have needed to turn to the right to get the train off the "cliff edge" of the frame - and allowed the train to get a bit closer as well to avoid the dead space in the middle.
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Old 03-29-2015, 01:08 AM   #10
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Thanks, BN SFer. I will give that a try with a wider angle lens to see how it looks!!
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Old 03-29-2015, 01:15 AM   #11
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My pleasure - let us see how it comes out!
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