Old 05-07-2012, 06:13 AM   #1
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Default Poor lighting-"Backlit"--Can someone please explain in detail?

Hi guys!! I have here a photo rejected for "Poor lighting/Backlit." The sun was behind me when I took this photo. I disagree with the backlit rejection. I can, for that matter, come nearer to seeing "high sun" if that is an issue. Does anyone have any input? Thanks for all help in advance!!

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:21 AM   #2
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A simple explanation is that the sun is not behind you in this photo which gives you not enough nose light on the lead locomotive. Looking at the photo, it's also suffering from some bad contrast due to the lighting and sun angle. An easy fix is to shoot a train with the sun behind you. Hope this helps!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:23 AM   #3
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Thanks John!! I'll try to reshoot it tomorrow in a different location if I can find the time.
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Thanks John!! I'll try to reshoot it tomorrow in a different location if I can find the time.
Another thing, watch out the time of day you shoot. Your best time for ideal lighting is from sunrise to about 10am. And then not again until after 4 or 5pm until sunset. You'll get high sun from 11am to through out the afternoon. Also keep in mind that make sure you get lighting on the side of train too besides the nose.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:38 PM   #5
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Yes. Look at the shadow of the crossing gantry. By that, it appears that you have full side light. Your own shadow should be pointing at the subject. As well, a loose rule of thumb is that your own shadow should be near as long to as tall as you are or longer to avoid high sun. If your own shadow is a lot shorter than you are, expect a high sun rejection on a typical wedge/roster. There are exceptions to that rule for scenic type photos, but they a still fairly rare.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #6
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Don't get too crazy trying to decipher whether an image is "backlit" or suffers from high sun when the main gist of either rejection is "Poor lighting." While the nose is clearly not super lit here, the main issue is that the sun is so high the trucks are dark. The shadows are short and are falling straight down on the tracks.

While this one isn't making RP, for your personal collection, it also needs some contrast wor.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:41 PM   #7
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It also needs CCW rotation.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:38 PM   #8
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Looks like high sun.
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Thanks guys!!! I'll go out late this afternoon( 5 P.M. or later) and reshoot if the clouds break and the sun cooperates.
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By the way, it was the third time the engine visited Kirkwood. I caught it on Cinco de Mayo on 313, and it visited earlier in the day on 314.
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