Old 10-27-2013, 04:03 AM   #1
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Default Rejected Photos For Bad Cropping--I don't see how!!

I have here some rejected photos, rejected for bad cropping, yet I have seen others of similar composition that were accepted. I just don't understand why, as I have tried several cropping options, but have been unable to satisfy the rp.net "gods!!" All comments and suggestions welcome!!

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Old 10-27-2013, 04:26 AM   #2
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First one isn't bad. Second one has too much up top and not enough at the bottom. I'd work with the second one more though, that looser crop is better.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:33 AM   #3
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What if I try centering the train? I thought I was following the rule of thirds, but I seem to missing something. I'll keep trying!!
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:07 AM   #4
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1. Add some on the right and if you can, add some on the top. The top of that hill shouldn't be cut off.

2. This one kinda surprises me. I'd do what WM said and whatever you take off at the top, add to the bottom.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:31 PM   #5
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I tried recropping #1, but still seem unable to satisfy the RP gods. I am at my wits end!!!!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...03&key=8162370
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:38 PM   #6
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I tried recropping #1, but still seem unable to satisfy the RP gods. I am at my wits end!!!!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...03&key=8162370
Yeah, I see nothing wrong with that one.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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Do you have a couple of frames previous where the train is under the rocky cliff? I think you're letting the power get too far away from the other subject of interest and that is causing your problems. I'm thinking something like these two examples I found quickly. Notice how the landscape feature of interest is above the train.

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Old 10-27-2013, 05:24 PM   #8
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Here is one shot with the train more directly below the landmark of interest, but it too has been rejected for "bad cropping."

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Old 10-28-2013, 12:03 AM   #9
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Whenever there is a line that is a horizon or is like a horizon, that line cannot be centered in the image. It must be up or down from that center. That is first issue here.

Next the front locomotive needs to be near a rule of thirds intersection. That is a magic rule. I do not know why this works but it does.

Next, color and exposure needs some help.

Lastly, do not let RP drive you to your wits end. It's just a web site. I know the frustration, I do. But in time you learn the ropes and getting on here is much easier.

Please see the link for my crop take on one of your shots.
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Thanks a million, Dennis!!! I am finding your advice very helpful!! I will be going back to this location later next week and put some of that advice to work and see what transpires. Fall colors are really beginning to show here.
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I have learned a lot here in the forums over the years so of course I'm glad to help.
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I sincerely do appreciate it, Dennis!!! Learning photography is fun learning, as opposed to having to learn things I hated when I was in school....with me it was English and history....
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Now I have a "bad color" issue to deal with. Where am I going astray?

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I sincerely do appreciate it, Dennis!!! Learning photography is fun learning, as opposed to having to learn things I hated when I was in school....with me it was English and history....
Mrs. Johnson, my 12th grade English teacher, despaired my ever comprehending our language. Mrs. Hogue, my typing teacher, ignored me because I was pathetic.

At my current job, everyday I try to remember what they taught me because those two things are what I make my living with.

Give both those subjects a second chance with a good teacher. They will become electric.

Like photography.
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Another bad cropping rejection after trying a closer crop....
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Please see the link for my crop take on one of your shots.
You know you can make that attachment show up as a photo in your post, right? That way there doesn't need to be any link clicking.
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You know you can make that attachment show up as a photo in your post, right? That way there doesn't need to be any link clicking.
Yea I know all about it but I forget...

This dosen't mean I have to host it somewhere does it? Hate that.

Please send along the how to Jim.

I wanna play with all the big kids.
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Yea I know all about it but I forget...

This dosen't mean I have to host it somewhere does it? Hate that.

Please send along the how to Jim.

I wanna play with all the big kids.
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After you have uploaded an attachment, close that window and go back to the post window. From there, click in the window where you want the photo to be (for instance, if you wanted to place the image between two paragraphs you've already typed), and then click on the paper clip icon, select your attachment and the attachment ID will then show up in brackets. Submit reply and there's your pic.
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Thank you!

I give it a whirl tonight.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:05 AM   #20
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Well, lookie here...

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These are not the ones that started the thread, but still congrats on getting these on.

I will have to say you certainly got by the RP "Similar to Previous" rejection.

BTW, when the shot under discussion gets in, it is forum etiquette to post it here, like the above.

(And I at least know how to do that!)

The form is [photoid=XXXXXX] The X's are the shot's ID number.
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Thanks a million, Dennis!!! I am finding your advice very helpful!! I will be going back to this location later next week and put some of that advice to work and see what transpires. Fall colors are really beginning to show here.
You have three identical shots from the same exact location accepted in the past two days, so why did you already try a fourth (the rejection in the OP)? Surely there is another scenic location along the Mississippi to whore out, no?
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My next location is down near Chester, IL, also on the Mississippi.
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