Old 11-10-2011, 11:38 PM   #1
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Default thought this might fly for veterans day

apparently not

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:42 PM   #2
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Nothing really stands out as being a railroad photo to me. Sorry.

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:50 PM   #3
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Nothing really stands out as being a railroad photo to me. Sorry.

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Really? Maybe if you don't read the sign...

You have pictures that are more of that stretch than this in the DB yourself.

I like it a lot, Rob, but I wish your photo description was a bit more elaborate...
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:54 PM   #4
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Nothing really stands out as being a railroad photo to me. Sorry.

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Not even the E unit, nor the Illinois Central logo on the railroad company's own plaque? Certainly more "railroady" then a few previously accepted plaques and notes.

Rob, I don't think the "artsy" angle is working in your favor and while the B&W conversion works nicely for the plaque, it is a bit less appealing in the way the background was captured.

Some potential exist - maybe not for RP, but still worth the effort.

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:54 PM   #5
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If it was written on paper and taped to a window, maybe, not not that
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:55 PM   #6
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Not even the E unit, nor the Illinois Central logo on the railroad company's own plaque? Certainly more "railroady" then a few previously accepted plaques and notes.
Look closer...
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:04 AM   #7
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Bad cropping/composition/whatever. We should get to see the rest of this memorial, especially since it is mounted to ties and rail. Why did you cut off the bottom of it?

I'd rather look at a photo of this any day over some random piece of paper in a station window, or a boat that shows nothing railroad-related (other than a logo).
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I wanna see the whole thing!!
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I personally have had a problem with those trying to tell us to turn railroad photography into an "art form." It's fine for them to do so, I welcome it in fact, but what I do have a problem with is that the practitioners of the more "arty" shots, I have found, tend to look down their nose's at others who are shooting more "mundane" shots.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:26 AM   #9
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Sorry guys. That's all there is. Shot it on B&W film. I'll be back next year to show the whole thing.
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My appeal was rejected. I think that's the first time I've ever appealed a shot.
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Where is that plaque located? I'd like to go see it. My grandfather was a fireman, then engineer for IC from 1917 to 1952.

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It's at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL. Right behind the main depot.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:32 PM   #13
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It's at the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL. Right behind the main depot.
Thanks. I need to plan a trip up there soon.
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:46 PM   #14
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FWIW the best "Train Veterans Memorial" shot that I can think of right off is the P&WV memorial right next to Rook Yard (currently W&LE) as shown here:

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Of course it helps when you can get a train in the image also...
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Obviously whoever screened the appeal agreed with the screener and me. I agree with Mitch that there is certainly potential there, but the way you captured it does not work. If the sun was on the plaque and you showed the entire plaque, it'd be much more pleasing to the eye. My thoughts...

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Old 11-11-2011, 03:08 PM   #16
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Well, the sun is shining on it....that's why I took the photo.

Anyway, I wanted to highlight the art on the plaque. The rest of it was "just" a lengthy list of names, which in terms of art, are not that interesting IMO..it's obvious there is a long list under it. Plus, as you move back the railroad aspect of it would become less apparent. I love pre-war American design, (including streamliners, etc). I wanted to clearly see the craft that went into making the plaque.

After being shot down by three screeners and other quality photogs here, I don't think I would have shot it any other way. Maybe color...
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:57 PM   #17
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Nothing really stands out as being a railroad photo to me. Sorry.

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Bah. Nevermind.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:13 PM   #18
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As a US Army veteran (1970-72), I thought it was a wonderful shot. Thank you for the thoughtfulness, and for at least trying to post a well-done piece of photography.

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:35 PM   #19
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Ron, can you put aside your service and pride for a moment, and please explain what about this shot rises above snapshot level?
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Red face Great idea.....

....not well executed. It is a great idea and I like the perspective and compositon (straight on showing the whole thing would be boring), but the shot looks soft to me. If it were razor sharp I think it would be gangbusters, and very appropriate for a day that honors our veterans. If the original is better than the posted version looks, perhaps it can be reworked and resubmitted, perhaps with a note to make sure the screener does not overlook the RAILROAD nature of the subject. I might also tighten up the horizontal cropping.
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Sure thing. It's slightly off center with unconventional framing, a nice variation of "black and white," and pleasingly "unlevel." (I refuse to say "Grayscale"--or "landscape"---or "portrait"---or "24-7" ). I might have pulled back just a tad to get the info under the IC diamond logo, but the basic message is there. It's not the most wonderful shot in the world, but it certainly exceeds RP's standards.

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I guess I am just a foamer. I see a dark, blurry, funky angled snapshot.. lol

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blurry? this is a crop of the image. this is scanned film. 40 year old camera.


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