Old 04-14-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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Bad crop. Whattaya think? In, out, right, left?

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Old 04-14-2011, 01:48 PM   #2
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I would remove some off the top. Looks pretty dead up there.

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Old 04-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #3
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Wish he was facing us.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:52 PM   #4
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This isn't a Day With Thomas snapshot of Junior with a cheesy grin on his face waving to the camera. It is a real life "reenactment" photo mentioned from the other thread. I like it as-is as far as that goes.

As far as the cropping Rob, you have the left 9/10 of the pic (with exception to the conductor) decently lit with the side of the train, the over head lights, and the support structures on the right. Then you get to the right edge and you have the only thing that is "back lit" peeking in on the frame stealing the conductor's spot light. Get rid of that and come down from the top no farther than the top of the car door, and I think you are good to go. You may want to bump the contrast a little more too and see how it looks.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:50 PM   #5
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BTW, Re; your caption. Breaks = times for coffee, or a smoke if you're so inclined. Brakes = things that arrest motion &/or hold things in place (unless you're talking sheet metal brakes which are things to bend sheet metal). Or maybe he's checking to see if somebody's taking their coffee break under there?

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Old 04-14-2011, 09:25 PM   #6
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Good points all three of you. I will make those changes. If that doesn't fly no big deal. Thanks for the help.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:40 PM   #7
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This isn't a Day With Thomas snapshot of Junior with a cheesy grin on his face waving to the camera. It is a real life "reenactment" photo mentioned from the other thread. I like it as-is as far as that goes.
Cool I could care less. I personally wish he had been facing us, as is it is just a nameless backside.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:19 AM   #8
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I think the issue is the cut off post on the right.

I would do one of two things:

(1) Crop off the edge of the post so that the frame ends on the second post that is lit.

(2) Use the clone tool to extend the surface of the second post over the cut off one in the foreground.

That would maintain the dimensions of the image.

I like the shot and the fat that it is B&W.

But the cut off post on the right is distracting.
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:49 AM   #9
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How's this bit off top and right still ok size wise. Is it a bit tight on the right?

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Old 04-15-2011, 02:13 PM   #10
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The cropping is good IMO, but your blacks in the trucks still look dark grey. It didn't take much of a bump in contrast for this (from your rejection, not your re-edit):
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #11
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I'm with coburn; namelss, faceless backside = boring. At least with the namelss, faceless backside of photogs that are on RP, more times than not, we see what they are shooting. Here it's some guy from the back and the side of some car somewhere. There's no scene. Nice DOF.
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I agree with Joe on this one. I like the idea but I would far rather him be facing us. I also like the dop, I think it really adds to the picture.

I think you should try to re shoot the shot and some make it with him facing you. ( I don't know why I just told you to re shoot because I hate when people tell me that on here)
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:35 PM   #13
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If he was looking at you, or looking at his train, you might have had a real winner. I like the shot as it is though.
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I'm with coburn; namelss, faceless backside = boring. At least with the namelss, faceless backside of photogs that are on RP, more times than not, we see what they are shooting. Here it's some guy from the back and the side of some car somewhere. There's no scene. Nice DOF.
I disagree.

That would be true if the conductor were the intended subject of the image.

Here he is just part of the whole scene, and therefore it is actually better that he is not looking at us since people will tend to look at other people's faces because that is how we communicate as humans.

I think it would be better to have a little more right side of the photo that is lit up to contrast the dark of the conductor.

That is why I suggested the clone tool.

You do need to lighten up the dark area on his back.

It is better, but not quite there yet.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:57 PM   #15
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I appreciate all the opinions and I hope Hatchetman does, too, but I don't get how he is just part of the whole scene. His back is turned toward us so that we can't see what he is doing. He get a little lost in the background clutter on the right side of the frame and the train cars aren't prevalent enough, seen from the side, to be another part of the scene.
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I appreciate all the opinions and I hope Hatchetman does, too, but I don't get how he is just part of the whole scene.
Yes, and that is what my point is.

You and I see two different scenes and that is totally alright and I am not trying to change your mind.

That is the great part about art, it is allowed to be different to each viewer.

There is no "right way" to see it.
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Old 04-16-2011, 08:36 PM   #17
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Appreciate the thoughts on this. I've been out of town for a few days. I submitted another version that had a little of his face. Was PEQ'd. I'll keep working on these conductor in action photos. Difficult. Most people don't like to be photographed by strangers while working. I'm not about to stop the guy and say, "hey can you turn around so I can get a better shot?"

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Appreciate the thoughts on this. I've been out of town for a few days. I submitted another version that had a little of his face. Was PEQ'd. I'll keep working on these conductor in action photos. Difficult. Most people don't like to be photographed by strangers while working. I'm not about to stop the guy and say, "hey can you turn around so I can get a better shot?"

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Looks underexposed to me.
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Now that you mention it, it does look a little underexposed. I don't have a good eye for contrast, exposure, color, all the technical details. Not good for an aspiring photographer!
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