Old 05-31-2007, 05:57 PM   #1
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I don't understand the reasoning on the rejection for this photo http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...key=1192113030
It was rejected for "Composition/Balance: The composition of this photo is poor relating to the overall balance of the image."

It is very similar (same location) to my first photo that I had accepted onto RP found here http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=162239 and even had a comment placed about the composition. I have resubmitted a few times cropping from the right, and then putting the right back, and taking from the left to center the whole image better.

I actually like the new version vs. my accepted one better since the sky is blue and the grass and trees are greener. Any ideas?
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I think the problem is the spread across the width. In the accepted version, the flag is just to the right of the tombstone (considering the horizontal dimension only, of course it is higher as well) and there is a fair portion of the train to the left. In the rejected version, the flag is more over the tombstone, doesn't stick out much to the right, and there isn't much train to the left (because it is farther back and so smaller). So the rejected shot has the main compositional elements in a much narrower range horizontally. And so you have dead space, especially along the left margin where there is also a distracting bit of tombstone cut off.
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What J said. It's off "balance" because it's so center-weighted...
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:59 PM   #4
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Do you think if I would crop the left down to the bottom of the whistle post, and the right side down to just include the tomb stone to the right of the flag holder and keeping the same height would spread the balance enough? I cropped this way and like the looks of it, but now I don't think it will be in size specs. It is now sized to 612x1000. I usually submit verticals at 750x1000.
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In my experience, RP is pretty tolerant of variations between the 3:2 ratio of film/DSLRs and the 4:3 ratio of digicams. Anything that is a narrower rectangle, like your proposed 3.3:2, is going to be less likely. My guess it that is especially going to be true on a vertical. Just too skinny.

And, for completeness, anything more square than the 4:3 doesn't do well, either.

Feel free to give it a go as my opinion is hardly definitive. I would say, however, regardless of whether it is accepted by RP, it simply doesn't work well as a skinny vertical. Probably, I just have a bias against overly skinny verticals. (I've got no problem with a superwide, especially if it is a panorama!).

And the tombstone is blown out - can you reprocess to minimize that?

Good luck with it.
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Here it is:

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Ween,

You beat me to it. I submitted and had to go save a life (sorta), came back and saw the good news. Thanks for the help guys!!!
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Great! I see from my home monitor that in fact you had plenty of detail on the face of the tombstone. I have to remember to be careful when I evaluate a picture on a different computer.
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