Old 03-24-2009, 08:12 PM   #1
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SP 4449 Daylight going to Michigan in July!





(March 24, 2009 - Owosso, MI) The "World's Most Famous Steam Locomotive" will travel from it's home in Portland, OR 2500 miles to Owosso, MI for America's Largest Celebration of Railroading in July. Southern Pacific steam locomotive no. 4449 known as the "Daylight" will appear at TrainFestival 2009 in Owosso, MI July 23-26. The massive undertaking to organize this train is being jointly coordinated by The Steam Railroading Institute of Owosso, MI, The Friends of the 4449 of Portland, OR and The Friends of the 261 of Minneapolis, MN.

TrainFestival 2009 is America's Largest Celebration of Railroading and will include 8 steam locomotives under steam, vintage and modern diesel/electric locomotives, various train rides, huge model train layouts, miniature train rides, art exhibit, locomotive cab tours, railroad vendors and much more. This family event is being held as a fund raiser to keep operating Pere Marquette steam locomotive no. 1225. This locomotive owned by the Steam Railroading Institute of Owosso, MI is due for Federal Railroad Administration re-certification in 2010. This locomotive is best known as the steam locomotive portrayed in the animated movie "The Polar Express".

The Southern Pacific Daylight no. 4449 will travel across country on an Amtrak sponsored trip hauling thousands of passengers on this rare excursion. The locomotive and train will travel through many cities along the way including Spokane, Fargo, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Lansing. A special excursion will be operated on July 24 originating from TrainFestival 2009, tickets are available online. The locomotive will be on display during the event for visitors to photograph, visit with the crew as well as explore the cab.

Southern Pacific no. 4449 was built in 1941 as a GS-4 "Northern" type locomotive. A 4-8-4 wheel arrangement, she is 110' long, 10' wide and 16' tall. The locomotive and tender weighs 433 tons, and it operates with a boiler pressure of 300 psi. Her eight 80" diameter drivers and unique booster truck can apply 5,500 horsepower to the rails and exceed 100 mph.

The only remaining operable "streamlined" steam locomotive of the Art Deco era, No. 4449 pulled the famous Southern Pacific first class "Daylight" passenger trains between Los Angeles and San Francisco over the scenic Coast Route and then on to Portland until 1955. Retired to static display at Oaks Park in 1958, most thought SP 4449 would never run again.

In 1974, she was selected to pull the American Freedom Train throughout the United States, and was subsequently rebuilt. Southern Pacific no. 4449 ran for three years to the delight of over 30 million people. She is arguably one of the most beautiful locomotives ever built -- and kept that way by the all-volunteer Friends of SP 4449!

More information and tickets are available online at www.trainfestival2009.com or by calling (989) 725-9464.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:24 PM   #2
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I was just about to post this, Alex...you beat me to it!
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Pretty amazing news. I had to check the calender to make sure it wasn't actually 8 days from now! This will definitely impact my planned 2009 trips since I've been really wanting to see the 4449.
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I wish I could make it up there, But doesnt look good. Sucks not having a car or license...Blah!
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I might have to visit my family in Michigan this summer.
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Until the 4449 announcement, I figured I would stay far, far away from the chaos in Owosso. After reading the announcement, now I'm torn. Do I preserve my sanity, or do I plunge in head-first?
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Until the 4449 announcement, I figured I would stay far, far away from the chaos in Owosso. After reading the announcement, now I'm torn. Do I preserve my sanity, or do I plunge in head-first?
I too was planning on staying away but I think I'm going with your second option. Now attempting to get Mr. Duda to join me.
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Hmm, this has the makings of a real party. Seems just about everyone I know has decided to go now. Perhaps we need to rent a farmer's field, get a banquet tent and a few kegs ...
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I wish I could make it up there, But doesnt look good. Sucks not having a car or license...Blah!
A group of us are gonna be headed North on the thursday before the main event starts, and will be staying to Sunday night Alex...get ur tickets and gas money and we will save some room in the trunk for you

I pretty much make it a point to NOT attend stuff like this, but this will be an exception. Just got the rest of my tickets and hotel reservations taken care of tonight..its just to good (and somewhat close) to pass up.
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A group of us are gonna be headed North on the thursday before the main event starts, and will be staying to Sunday night Alex...get ur tickets and gas money and we will save some room in the trunk for you

I pretty much make it a point to NOT attend stuff like this, but this will be an exception. Just got the rest of my tickets and hotel reservations taken care of tonight..its just to good (and somewhat close) to pass up.
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Hmm, this has the makings of a real party. Seems just about everyone I know has decided to go now. Perhaps we need to rent a farmer's field, get a banquet tent and a few kegs ...
Mr. Duda doesn't seem too interested, time will tell.
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Crap!

I wish I would go to this but unfortunately my family is broke thanks to my brother being shipped off to college this summer. If it weren't for that I'd be heading up there in a heartbeat!
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Mr. Duda doesn't seem too interested, time will tell.
I seem to recall that Mr. Duda showed up at the Altoona Railfest in 2007, and he was more surprised that I showed up there than I was when I saw him there. So there is hope yet.
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I live an hour away from Owosso and dont know if ill go. I might just get the things coming into Owosso before everyone arrives and call it good.


I know one things for sure, this site will be really boring for a few weeks in August after everyone submits there shots.
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I live an hour away from Owosso and dont know if ill go. I might just get the things coming into Owosso before everyone arrives and call it good.


I know one things for sure, this site will be really boring for a few weeks in August after everyone submits their shots.
I suspect that there will be foamers foaming all over the positioning moves, too.

I look at it this way: TrainFest is a spectacle. It is not a photography event. Anyone wanting "real railroady photos" can forget all about that. There's nothing "authentic" about 8 strange steam locomotives all together. This is a spectacle for the sake of having a spectacle. I'm going to laugh if I see any railfans having fits when there are small children, dogs, old people or other obstructions in the way of their perfect shots. They are entirely missing the point.

I'm going to have a good time at TrainFest because it's an opportunity to spend time with friends that I don't often see. The steam engines are just an excuse for everyone to get together.

Additionally, if everyone runs right out and uploads everything the week after the event, won't that be like the Quentin Tarantino version of a Mexican standoff? Why not wait a year or so when you can corner the market?
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The real fun will be chasing these locomotives as they come into Michigan. I've already got a plethora of ideas for photo ops if they are running during the day. Oh please, Amtrak & 4449, leave Chicago at 6 am to head for Michigan!! All I have to say is stay the hell out of my way from the Michigan/Indiana border to Durand.

I agree with John about the event being a spectacle. Just show up, have some fun and don't worry too much about getting pics around the Owosso area...unless you want dozens of people standing trackside in your shots.
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I look at it this way: TrainFest is a spectacle. It is not a photography event. Anyone wanting "real railroady photos" can forget all about that.
The only "photography event" at TrainFest will most likely be the night photo sessions on Friday and Saturday nights. They are limited to 50 people, and will run late into the night, long after the "daisy pickers" and normal folks have headed off to dinner and sleep.

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Anyone wanting "real railroady photos" can forget all about that.
So much wrong with that sentence...
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I think I'll just stay here and drink...

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It should be a pretty good event. If all goes as planned, I hope to attend. Ever since there was the rumor that 765 was going to be there, I started making plans.

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If the 4449 trip comes to fruition, I reckon there's a chance I could be heading out west to chase for a portion of the trip. Depends on the route and schedule. Probably not going to mess with the madness of Owosso.

Word on the street is that the '49 will take the route of the Empire Builder through the Rockies. If so, that's an area I've been wanting to visit anyway...
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If I had the time and the money, I'd definitely be following the 4449 east (or riding behnd her if they opened that trip to the public). As it is, I'll settle for riding through the Michigan countryside behind her . . .

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