Old 12-16-2008, 10:30 PM   #1
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I submitted this image, and they said it was too dark:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=532614339

Snow photos are hard to judge, so I brightened it up a bit:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=187344554

Now the photo has bad cropping.

Why not save the time and trouble with a "We don't want this picture" rejection so I know not to waste my time or the screener's time?
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:34 PM   #2
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Nothing about those rejections says that they will never accept it. You have several issues with that photo and a screener only needs to find one to reject and until you fix all of them, it will continue to be rejected.

The PEQ rejection basically is a "no thank you" rejection.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:46 PM   #3
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Multiple rejections are not uncommon here, and those seem pretty on the ball. The first was a little dark, but the issue with the second attempt is as it says, cropping, which is a fixable problem.

If possible try leaving a little more space on the bottom and sides so the shot is not so tight on the locomotive and bridge. The main problem I believe is the space on the top with just the trees and sky. It is not bad for me, but I think they would like to see less empty space in the top of the photograph.

A little cropping work and I bet it will get in so don't think they don't want it.

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Old 12-16-2008, 11:00 PM   #4
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I submitted this image, and they said it was too dark:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=532614339

Snow photos are hard to judge, so I brightened it up a bit:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=187344554

Now the photo has bad cropping.

Why not save the time and trouble with a "We don't want this picture" rejection so I know not to waste my time or the screener's time?
As already mentioned, leave a little more space on the right side of the frame to give the nose of the loco a little more breathing room. If that is possible, and you resubmit, I'd try to settle with something between the two rejections in terms of lighting. The second looks too bright, and the first a bit too dark.

It's a very good snow photo, so if you can open it up a little in the cropping department, I think it's worthy of being on RP.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:02 PM   #5
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I agree on the cropping..... I think it needs a little more room on the nose side and on the bottom......... I can live with the top & bridge sides............ I do think you may have over done the lightening just a lil........... JMHOOC
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:17 PM   #6
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Well, Shane, it appears that they DID want your picture:

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Looks great.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:25 PM   #7
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After making the recommended changes, they did take the picture.

I still don't have a very good eye for Railpictures.net photography. I am still somewhat confused about too bright, too dark, close cropping, bad cropping, etc. Each photo seems to have different requirements, and I don't know what they are.

There is no standard, and everything is subjective, making it even more difficult. I hate asking for suggestions on every picture, but it seems like that's the only way I can get things accepted.

Thank you for your help.
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I think anyone looking at that photo would automatically think you've got a pretty good grasp at it. Just keep doing what you're doing and it'll continue to get easier for you.
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After making the recommended changes, they did take the picture.

I still don't have a very good eye for Railpictures.net photography. I am still somewhat confused about too bright, too dark, close cropping, bad cropping, etc. Each photo seems to have different requirements, and I don't know what they are.

There is no standard, and everything is subjective, making it even more difficult. I hate asking for suggestions on every picture, but it seems like that's the only way I can get things accepted.

Thank you for your help.
You likely, in time, will develop an eye for what will work here.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:01 AM   #10
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I've been uploading photos here for 6 years, but still have not figured it out.

Thank you for your tips and support.

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Old 12-17-2008, 01:16 AM   #11
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Good to see it got in, although you need to correct your locomotive info BNSF 7539 is not an SD70ACe, its an ES44DC.
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Sorry, can't do it - for some reason, the photographer can't change the locomotive types on their own pictures.

You are correct, though. It is a GEVO and not a 70.

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You can actually go to the photo management just like you would to change your reporting marks, caption etc, and click on the link in the box above it called photo correction form and change it from there. It usually takes a couple of days for them to correct it. I had to change CSX to Norfolk Southern once because I had the wrong railroad when I submitted the picture.

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Old 12-24-2008, 06:37 PM   #14
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Isn't there a "Too common" rejection? I took that to mean theres nothing I can do to that photo. I've gotten that a few times.
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Isn't there a "Too common" rejection? I took that to mean theres nothing I can do to that photo. I've gotten that a few times.
I believe that's part of the "Poor Lighting" rejection, which says that common equipment, poorly lit, isn't acceptable. Might also be part of the bad angle rejection reason...

There are lots and lots of "common" shots to be found here - the abundance of "well lit wedges" is something people like to complain about when they're talking about how lame RP is for rejecting their "awesome" and "great" photos. Thank goodness they reject the poorly lit wedge shots.
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I'd like to get something other than the 3/4 wedge shot, but it's often hard to get far enough away to get the entire locomotive in the frame.
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:02 PM   #17
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I'd like to get something other than the 3/4 wedge shot, but it's often hard to get far enough away to get the entire locomotive in the frame.
Huh??? Use the surrounding scenery to fill the frame.
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I'd like to get something other than the 3/4 wedge shot, but it's often hard to get far enough away to get the entire locomotive in the frame.
Please explain this.
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