Old 08-03-2012, 03:29 PM   #1
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:13 PM   #2
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Frankly, the shot looks like a natural square shot to which you have added on the left, perhaps just to get within RP guidelines.

For RP purposes, crop on the left as much as you can get away with. RP does 5:4 formats, so try 1200x960. You could also skim a few pixels top and bottom, although you don't really have much to work with there.

I like the shot very much. If RP were more flexible about rectangles vs squares, this would get on in a heartbeat.
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About 10 million Instamatics were made. Can you imagine how many square photgraphs there are/were?
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Frankly, the shot looks like a natural square shot to which you have added on the left, perhaps just to get within RP guidelines.

For RP purposes, crop on the left as much as you can get away with. RP does 5:4 formats, so try 1200x960. You could also skim a few pixels top and bottom, although you don't really have much to work with there.

I like the shot very much. If RP were more flexible about rectangles vs squares, this would get on in a heartbeat.
Thanks J,

This was a straight 5x7 crop. I can look at it again tonight to see. I do have some room on the left but included a lot of dark space which didn't bode well to me.
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Oops, was unclear about the math, or at least confusing. The shot is 1200x857. I want you to remove from the left, so less dark space. This will make it, whatever, 1071x857, which when expanded, becomes 1200x960.

So not more room on the left, rather less. More square, as close to square as you think RP will take.

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About 10 million Instamatics were made. Can you imagine how many square photgraphs there are/were?
They were all roster shots with poles stickup up in the background and foreground obstructions!
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An awesome candidate for a 4:5 crop indeed. I would also try some noise redux if you haven't already.
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When I was young here, I used big watermarks. I don't now.

Since our eyes scan from the top left to the lower right, if you must have a water mark, put a subtle one on the lower right. Then the watermark won't hurt viewer eyes right as they start to look at your image for the first time.
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Oops, was unclear about the math, or at least confusing. The shot is 1200x857. I want you to remove from the left, so less dark space. This will make it, whatever, 1071x857, which when expanded, becomes 1200x960.

So not more room on the left, rather less. More square, as close to square as you think RP will take.

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Yes, that is what I am thinking. See if you can knock down the noise in the sky and to the right of the rails; RP can be picky on that sometimes (but check with the night shooters, I am not one).
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Yes, that is what I am thinking. See if you can knock down the noise in the sky and to the right of the rails; RP can be picky on that sometimes (but check with the night shooters, I am not one).
I tried it J but now it's turned into a comp issue.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...01&key=5497435

I don't see how though, the left signals line up with on the left, the track on the lower right lines up on the right and the trains lights almost fit on the upper right. I wonder if this begins the infamous runaround.
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The image now seems to be saying "make me square"! Or a modest vertical, a near square, still more squarish than 5:4, or now 4:5 (which dimension comes first?). Bring in the left side, and a bit on the right also.

So I'd try that, hope for the best, and accept the likely RP reject should it happens. It's an arbitrary site preference, nothing you can do. Really nice shot.
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Thanks J. They were giving me the runaround and now its a PEQ. Whichever. Thanks for the help and compliments.
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