Old 11-26-2009, 02:19 AM   #1
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I have a major issue when going to a train station to grab a few shots. The railroad here (Metro North/NJ Transit) has every single parking space as a permit only or pay to park (16 hour minimum) its crazy. You can't park anywhere without the risk of being towed. Anyone else having a similar issue around the country? I think its a little overboard, as this makes it impossible to park for an 1 hour so to take some pictures.
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:03 AM   #2
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I have a major issue when going to a train station to grab a few shots. The railroad here (Metro North/NJ Transit) has every single parking space as a permit only or pay to park (16 hour minimum) its crazy. You can't park anywhere without the risk of being towed. Anyone else having a similar issue around the country? I think its a little overboard, as this makes it impossible to park for an 1 hour so to take some pictures.
They're commuter railroads what should they do?! I know some stations on the NJCL have free parking on weekends but during the week the goal is to cater to paying customers and make money off people using the lot when demand for parking is high.
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It seems that a lot of passenger rail companies are making it difficult for railfans to photograph trains. Amtrak recently banned photographers from taking photos from station platforms, unless a ticket was present. I've found this to be pretty crazy, but I imagine they have their reasons.

I've also heard NJ Transmit gives photogs a hard time. I think someone has a video of NJ Transit giving a railfan a hard time on Rail-Videos.net, maybe? I could be wrong. All I recall is an NJ Transit employee yelling something at a railfan.

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Old 11-26-2009, 01:12 PM   #4
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I thought this would be a thread about how to take shots of stations.
I live on the ex-Southern. We have some pretty cool-looking stations.
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It seems that a lot of passenger rail companies are making it difficult for railfans to photograph trains. Amtrak recently banned photographers from taking photos from station platforms, unless a ticket was present. I've found this to be pretty crazy, but I imagine they have their reasons.

I've also heard NJ Transmit gives photogs a hard time. I think someone has a video of NJ Transit giving a railfan a hard time on Rail-Videos.net, maybe? I could be wrong. All I recall is an NJ Transit employee yelling something at a railfan.

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Really? Is this just at a certain station?
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It seems that a lot of passenger rail companies are making it difficult for railfans to photograph trains. Amtrak recently banned photographers from taking photos from station platforms, unless a ticket was present. I've found this to be pretty crazy, but I imagine they have their reasons.

I've also heard NJ Transmit gives photogs a hard time. I think someone has a video of NJ Transit giving a railfan a hard time on Rail-Videos.net, maybe? I could be wrong. All I recall is an NJ Transit employee yelling something at a railfan.

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Chase, that video you mention was on youtube, female NJ employee was yelling at the guy that taking pictures of trains is illegal at the station platform. I was almost ticketed once while working on the GO Train but that's another story.
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It seems that a lot of passenger rail companies are making it difficult for railfans to photograph trains. Amtrak recently banned photographers from taking photos from station platforms, unless a ticket was present. I've found this to be pretty crazy, but I imagine they have their reasons.

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TRAINS Magazine has had a couple of good columns on the subject recently. The gist I remember was that when a spokesperson was pressed to elaborate on the rule they pointed out that it applied to stations owned and operated by Amtrak. I also recall that the Amtrak Chief Of Police said that his officers had better things to do than enforce that rule, or words to that effect. If I can dig up which issue that was I'll report back.

When the company spokesperson wants to backpedal under questioning, and the guy in charge of the enforcement says 'I've got better things to do', it makes me wonder who is really coming up with stuff like this. The authors of these overly vague, poorly written 'laws' need to be called out.

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http://www.rail-videos.net/video/view.php?id=5083
I think this was the video Chase was talking about.
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I would have to admit. That is a little too close! My good retired railroad engineer friend would have a heart attack if he saw railfans THAT close to the tracks.
Really? Does his retired railroad engineer friend have heart attacks as well when he sees people standing on a busy street corner just a few feet away from traffic? I just find it amazing that people freak out about standing a few feet away from a moving object that's on a FIXED PATH, but don't think twice about standing on a street corner as cars, buses and trucks, which could veer of their course at any moment, roll by just a few feet away.
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I particularly like this comment:"I would have to admit. That is a little too close! My good retired railroad engineer friend would have a heart attack if he saw railfans THAT close to the tracks."

Really? Does his retired railroad engineer friend have heart attacks as well when he sees people standing on a busy street corner just a few feet away from traffic? I just find it amazing that people freak out about standing a few feet away from a moving object that's on a FIXED PATH, but don't think twice about standing on a street corner as cars, buses and trucks, which could veer of their course at any moment, roll by just a few feet away.
The best part is that the "railfans" were no where near that close. The camera on a tripod was.
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If you owned a business, would you want people not buying your services coming to your business and just standing around and getting in the way of your paying customers? On top of that it is a insurance risk and liability.

Also, many laws are formed so that they can be inforced if they need to be. If there is no law then they can't tell you that you can't be there. Also, if there is no law, it would be easier for you to sue them if something happened opposed to the law stating that you were trespassing.

I think it is also a big city issue more then anything else.

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Really? Does his retired railroad engineer friend have heart attacks as well when he sees people standing on a busy street corner just a few feet away from traffic? I just find it amazing that people freak out about standing a few feet away from a moving object that's on a FIXED PATH, but don't think twice about standing on a street corner as cars, buses and trucks, which could veer of their course at any moment, roll by just a few feet away.
Really ? Would you be standing close if a train derails ? Or get your one of your limbs cut off or get knocked to the ground by flying debris like metal chains or tie down straps off a freight car ?
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Really ? Would you be standing close if a train derails ? Or get your one of your limbs cut off or get knocked to the ground by flying debris like metal chains or tie down straps off a freight car ?
If a train derails and takes me out because I was standing too close, then I was MEANT TO DIE THERE.

The odds of a vehicle on the road swerving and taking you out are astronomically higher than the odds of a train randomly derailing in the exact place you happened to be standing. Yet...no one ever says, "Oh my god, look how close those people are standing to the traffic speeding by!!"
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If a train derails and takes me out because I was standing too close, then I was MEANT TO DIE THERE.

The odds of a vehicle on the road swerving and taking you out are astronomically higher than the odds of a train randomly derailing in the exact place you happened to be standing. Yet...no one ever says, "Oh my god, look how close those people are standing to the traffic speeding by!!"
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Imagine living next to an airport runway.
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that would be fun if you love air liners, and alteast you dont need an alarm clock
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Makes me glad I don't live in a big city. My town only has a small Amtrak kiosk with a few seats.
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It seems that a lot of passenger rail companies are making it difficult for railfans to photograph trains. Amtrak recently banned photographers from taking photos from station platforms, unless a ticket was present. I've found this to be pretty crazy, but I imagine they have their reasons.

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Not quite. From my understanding that rule only applies to restricted areas. These are stations were you need a ticket to be on the platform. I don't believe the restriction applies at country stations or open air stations were people can come and go.

If you have a ticket, you may take pictures of the train your boarding, just no tripods.

But in reality, I can think of many better places than the platforms of Penn Station NY and Baltimore.
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