Old 10-28-2009, 01:28 AM   #1
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I usually dont get out trackside much at night (living in Atlanta it wouldnt be a good idea anyways) so till now i havnt had a chance to try time exposures save for a few streak shots at Folkston. I had thought these two had come out pretty good but they got hit for being too dark. These were shot just before dawn so is it that this is just too close to daylight for them to work? I thought the predawn colors made for some interesting shots.

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This one i tried panning the units and i think it came out good.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=848751686

Would the darkness problem be with my post processing? Still having a hard time judging things on this laptop. For those of you who edit with a laptop, how do you tilt your screen. For me i tilt it so i can make out distinctions between blacks and dark greys but i wonder if thats making me think that dark pictures are actually lighter.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:32 AM   #2
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This one i tried panning the units and i think it came out good.
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No, it didn't come out good. Pans/paces require more light than what you had there. Panning something at night is nearly impossible unless you're using a very low aperture and have a very decent ambient light source.

As for the link to your first rejection, it didn't work.

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Old 10-28-2009, 02:23 AM   #3
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Pans/paces require more light than what you had there.
Wrong! You can do any pan/pace shots in any kind of light (or lack of light), you just have to be really good, really creative, and really lucky.

It was a decent attempt nikos, but your pan shot just doesn't quite work. Sorry. Your first photo is too dark (underexposed). For that shot to work, it would have to be darker out, and the exposure would have had to be longer.

Decent tries, but neither work. I can relate to the not having the opportunity to shoot at night, too. There's no trains to photograph up here at night.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:58 AM   #4
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Agree with Jim about panning. (Pacing is done from an object moving the same speed as the train.) Pans can be done in any light, you just have to be good at it. Imagine the pans Mitch will get when Lerro Productions perfects their night runby lighting setup.

Moving on, adding to the issues Chase and Jim raised, the first photo is soft and the second shows an overuse of the Shadow/Highlight tool.

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Wrong! You can do any pan/pace shots in any kind of light (or lack of light), you just have to be really good, really creative, and really lucky.
My pan training with cell phone - first one is model railroad in pub, second and third ones are streetcars in sodium light. I guess that Mitch with his experience would make excellent shots from these scenes.
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Well, without stating the obvious, but actually stating the obvious, a low light shot still has to meet certain requirements not only for inclusion to RP, but just to be asthetically pleasing. It has to have enough light, it has to be in focus and without a lot of noise and grain. Dusk and dawn shots are the hardest for me to get right. Try actual night time first, which should be easier this time of year.
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Alright well i guess ill keep that advice in mind next time, as Joe said it will be all too easy to get night shots in the upcoming days, looking forward to those 4:30 sunsets.........
As for the pan shot, I resort to pans when there is not enough light for any other sort of shot. Ive tried in daylight, doesnt work for me even if i expose all the way down, i guess you need a ND filter for that.
Is there anyway the first shot (or rather the general lighting of the situation) is salvegable? I have a couple other takes of the scene that i may rework later if im in the mood. Also how does one avoid headlight glare on long exposures, just the low beam in this shot was getting out of hand at 5 seconds.
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As for the pan shot, I resort to pans when there is not enough light for any other sort of shot. Ive tried in daylight, doesnt work for me even if i expose all the way down, i guess you need a ND filter for that.
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Full day light, direct sun, you may need a filter. iso 100 1/30th f22 I can usually pull that off in full light.
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Andrew, that shot is grainy as all hell and even more cool. It made it to my very short list of favorite photos.
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Andrew, that shot is grainy as all hell and even more cool. It made it to my very short list of favorite photos.
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You made me think for a second I got my Blaszczyks mixed up!
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