Old 10-23-2009, 12:24 AM   #26
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Picasa 3 from Google. Any problem with that? I think I'm just having a hard time developing "the eye."
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everytime i see non-train photos of yours i think, "so much talent. wasted on trains."

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Old 10-23-2009, 04:04 AM   #27
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Picasa 3 from Google. Any problem with that? I think I'm just having a hard time developing "the eye."
Congrats on having a hard time developing the eye.
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:49 PM   #28
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Is this better?

I figured it might be.

And Jim will probably say, "Congrats on a blahhhh picture."
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:28 PM   #29
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Is this better?

I figured it might be.
Ahh, converting a bad color photo to black & white. One of my favorite tricks. /sarcasm

Two of my favorite posts from a thread on B&W conversion back in Dec. 2008:

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True B&W, is not a replacement for bad lighting. In fact B&W requires a different kind of light than that of lighting for color to make a successful B&W photo. Tonality, contrast, shadows and depth, usually play a critical roll in making a successful B&W image, where this is not always the case with color.
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:08 PM   #30
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Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:13 PM   #31
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The reason I posted that is because you may have missed David's post [post #8] above. Why make it a B&W, when someone has already shown you how to fix it. Go check out his attachment and duplicate that.

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Levelness: it needs slight CW rotation to get bridge supports vertical

Cropping: go for 3:2 ratio, keep the interesting tree in the right and crop out the train in the left. Keep the bridges in upper third of the pic (the water is much more interesting than nearly empty sky).

Contrast: it needs quite a lot of it. It looks like you shot this photo through dirty window now.

I tried a bit of editing
- cropping
- contrast increase with curves
- selective darkening of sky
- selective sharpening of everything else
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Converting to black and white also didn't move the train further to the right in the frame. I think you should use what you've been told and the changes you made to the shot as a learning tool for next time. I don't see this one getting onto RP. It's certainly a better representation if the scene now than it was when you started the thread though. That's what you should take away from this shot.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:50 AM   #33
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A note to my way to fix it: selective darkening of sky after enhancing contrast with curves enhances noise in the sky because the contrast-enhancing S-shaped curve compresses right (and left) parts of histogram and subsequent darkening expands it again. It does the same with colors what would happen to details after resizing image to much smaller pixel size and to original back again. There are two ways how to do this right:
- leave sky from editing contrast
- do the selective darkening before editing contrast on whole picture
I can't say which one is better untill I try it but I'm too busy now.

I'll also second to Joe's post. There's a small chance you'll get it to the DB, but there's a big chance you'll learn how to edit such picture if you actually try it.

If you want to get ANY picture to the DB, go out again on some sunny day, go to some spot where you can shoot basic wedgie with sun behind your shoulder. There's a big chance that you'll end up with photo that will need just cropping, resize and sharpening to get into the DB. Nothing else. These shots of mine prove it:
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:35 PM   #34
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Thanks I'm not sure that Picasa 3 has selective darkening. But I will try some wedgies too.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:33 PM   #35
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It now has gotten hit with bad cropping... .

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...d=753042&key=0
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...&key=427134119

What do I do now? How should I crop it?
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