Old 09-22-2010, 05:42 PM   #1
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With cloudy day shots now seemingly being accepted left and right I thought I would give this old shot another try, but still no dice. I dont think anyone will ever shoot a pair of CR B40-8's together since there are only 3 left and running long hood forward at this. I think I did a fair job of processing and my sky is not completely white like some shots I have seen recently. Thoughts? Should I give it another 5 years?
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I'd give another five years. I think it is a better cloudy day shot than some of the ones that have gotten on lately though.
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I like it!
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To me, it just comes off as too dark overall and detering me from wanting a closer look than just as a thumbnail.

You have a lot of great shots on rp.

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There might be enough cloud variation for BW to work - the attached isn't an exhaustive attempt but maybe it triggers some ideas for you. I don't think this is a rescue BW, I think there is some potential in the tonal variation for an interesting result.
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There might be enough cloud variation for BW to work - the attached isn't an exhaustive attempt but maybe it triggers some ideas for you. I don't think this is a rescue BW, I think there is some potential in the tonal variation for an interesting result.
I think it looks and fits with the scene better in B&W.. Still the scene is pretty cool. The color is ( as everyone else has said ) is too much. B&W seems like it stands a better chance IMHO.

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I really like the color version with the exception of the haloing around the trees in the sky.
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Looks underexposed in addition to being dark/cloudy. And oversaturated. Conrail blue was never THAT blue.

Almost looks kind of HDR'ish

I do like the location and composition.

You can tell it's Georgia because it seems that is where CSX has relegated all those B40-8's.
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the color and image quality are very bad/strange, did you use any noise reduction or other filter on it?
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The image quality is probably just the result of a cloudy day and having a point n shoot that i dont really like taking above ISO 100. It was quite a dark and miserable day I remember, wasnt even planning on going railfanning, just stopped by on the way to some errands and watch this unfold infront of me. Had a hard time trying to get the photos to come out right, had to underexpose a bit to keep some detail in the sky, which probably didnt help the IQ.
@J, B&W isnt really what I want with this shot, nor do I know if I have the processing room with the quality the way it is, defeats the point of having two blues in either case.
Does this version look any better? I took the saturation down a notch, I agree it was a bit much but trying my best to salvage the shot from the conditions.
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I like the way it looks dark and gloomy.
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I really like it, but I am not sure it'll get on RP, kinda reminds me of the shot that is Joe's Avy.
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This photo can easily make it into the database. The only thing holding it back is the horrible post processing. If you're using a P&S, I suspect that means you also have a low end editing program. Pass the original off to somebody who knows their way around Photoshop and it shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 mins.
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This photo can easily make it into the database. The only thing holding it back is the horrible post processing. If you're using a P&S, I suspect that means you also have a low end editing program. Pass the original off to somebody who knows their way around Photoshop and it shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 mins.
John, you may not be familiar with Nikos, the guy has almost 400 shots on RP, we all can use some help from time to time but he is hardly ignorant of post processing.

From the EXIF it looks like he uses PS CS 4.
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This photo can easily make it into the database. The only thing holding it back is the horrible post processing. If you're using a P&S, I suspect that means you also have a low end editing program. Pass the original off to somebody who knows their way around Photoshop and it shouldn't take more than 5 or 10 mins.

And I guess here we have someone with a high end camera and a overinflated ego, what a shocker......
Ive been using photoshop for several years and I know my way around it just fine thank you very much. If you think the post processing is so horrible, ill post the original here and you can do whatever magic tricks you have up your sleeve.
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And I guess here we have someone with a high end camera and a overinflated ego, what a shocker......
Ive been using photoshop for several years and I know my way around it just fine thank you very much. If you think the post processing is so horrible, ill post the original here and you can do whatever magic tricks you have up your sleeve.
I don't think its an unfair assumption that if you have a point and shoot camera, you're also using a lower end editing program and by extension that you don't have much experience editing.... especially if you're asking for editing help.

I'd take a crack at it if you posted the original, full size image. As for a high end camera and overinflated ego; always a pretty common defense from somebody who need to justify to themselves why they haven't invested in a higher end camera and/or editting program.
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Don't feel bad, thats the same guy that would rip 13 year old kids posting their pictures in the Teen Railfan Group on Trains.com a few years back.
What is the relevancy of placing an age in your post? Age is irrelevant in this hobby. Constructive criticism should always be welcomed regardless of where one submits his/her images. The person receiving the criticism should be able to respectfully accept it. That seems to be the problem with younger people.

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I don't think its an unfair assumption that if you have a point and shoot camera, you're also using a lower end editing program and by extension that you don't have much experience editing.... especially if you're asking for editing help.

I'd take a crack at it if you posted the original, full size image. As for a high end camera and overinflated ego; always a pretty common defense from somebody who need to justify to themselves why they haven't invested in a higher end camera and/or editting program.
Agreed with John on this account. His statements are not necessarily implying you cannot afford a high-end SLR (therefore also not being able to afford a decent post processing software), but could also be implying that one simply doesn't have enough of an interest in the hobby to pursue more professional gear.

Certainly nothing to take offense to..

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What is the relevancy of placing an age in your post? Age is irrelevant in this hobby. Constructive criticism should always be welcomed regardless of where one submits his/her images. The person receiving the criticism should be able to respectfully accept it. That seems to be the problem with younger people.


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Agreed with John on this account. His statements are not necessarily implying you cannot afford a high-end SLR (therefore also not being able to afford a decent post processing software), but could also be implying that one simply doesn't have enough of an interest in the hobby to pursue more professional gear.

Certainly nothing to take offense to..

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Or that I dont have my parents buying me the latest camera gear.......

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At least mine looks somewhat like reality and I cant see spots of grain on the unit on mine.....
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I don't think its an unfair assumption that if you have a point and shoot camera, you're also using a lower end editing program and by extension that you don't have much experience editing.... especially if you're asking for editing help.

I'd take a crack at it if you posted the original, full size image. As for a high end camera and overinflated ego; always a pretty common defense from somebody who need to justify to themselves why they haven't invested in a higher end camera and/or editting program.
Hmmmm, maybe the fact that I have 400 pictures on here might say that I know a thing or two about post processing? I've had to teach some friends the basics of post processing so they could get shots accepted here.
Needs to justiy? I don't have a damned thing to justify, I dont need higher end equipment, I can take perfectly good pictures with what I have. Sure a SLR would be nice at some point but I have bigger things to deal with at this point. Don't know what you do for your equipment but we cant all be like your buddy Chase who is "homeschooled" and therefore probably not working and his parents foot the bill for his top of the line equipment.
Here is the original image file, do whatever magic you have up your sleeve sir.
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Your processing made it darker then it was. Your almost got an HDR look or maybe way to much contrast? Cool shot otherwise. I think maybe you were trying to process the sky globally instead of selectively?
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Don't feel bad, thats the same guy that would rip 13 year old kids posting their pictures in the Teen Railfan Group on Trains.com a few years back.
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To be fair to John, he also rips late 30s railfans due to their grammar.

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I'm a fan of the exaggerated color on cloudy day pictures.

I think that this pictures color temperature and makeup really expresses a feeling of doom and gloom, which I think is consistent with the composition of the picture.
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