Old 09-10-2007, 03:32 AM   #1
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Okay, i'm just kidding about the contest in a way, but I am still interested in getting some input from those of you here in the forums. While looking through my photos and others' photos already on RP, I've found there are few photos that show an obstruction in front of the subject (not necessarily THE front) or splitting the subject, mostly the locomotive. I understand that one of the rejection reasons is "Foreground Clutter" but like other reasons that can be subjective. Personally, I like when people spice it up and go for something out of the usual comfort zone. I recall a thread quite a number of months ago where a treed in bridge photo was brought into the forums with the author looking for input about the rejection. The photographer was very proud of his work as he should be if he likes it, but it simply wasn't RPesque. Others in the forums offered advice and suggestions but also liked the concept and execution. Now to my topic:

I would like to see some photos/favorites of yours that others may consider the object to be 'obstructed' but you are quite fond of. This obstruction could be a plants/trees, bridges, etc. This can be a photo(s) that is already on RP if you feel it fits the topic or one you have stored away. Let some PC see the light of day!!!

I WANT THIS TO STAY A FRIENDLY TOPIC SO KEEP IT CIVIL!
THAT MEANS NO "That sucks" OR "Why would you like that?!" TYPE OF COMMENTS!

This is suppose to be a fun hobby with different tastes so lets have some fun here.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:43 AM   #2
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I'll be the first to bite...

Here's one that I had forgotten about until I started this thread. It was a simple grab shot that I saw at the last minute clammering down the hill back to the car. I can't tell whether its the halo effect of the trees, the heroic angle of the engine, or the colors that makes it so appealing to me. It's probably a combination of all three and I like it!
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:01 AM   #3
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Andrew, I like that shot...the contrast between colors and the bright light really make it stand out, and the trees act as a nice 'filter' for the engine. All in all a great, out-of-the-box shot!

I have one, well a few, that are here on RP-


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Even tho most of the loco is covered by the station, etc, I like this shot, as I think it conveys the feeling of watching the train from in the station.

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Sure, the bridge girder covers up the tender...but thats what happens when the train traverses the bridge!

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Yes, a Metra shot. While the overhang to the right covers up the rear of the locomotive, it also frames the word Metra, and brings the bike into the photo.

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Okay, so the Geeps arent that covered up, but I thought it was neat to see them squeeze by the small brush...or maybe I'm just wierd!

All in all, I guess I really don't mind too many obstructions, as they can help to set the scene as far as where the railroads run.

PS- great thread, Andrew!
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:07 AM   #4
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Here's my offering..

I kinda blew the sky out some, but there wasn't any other way to do it. I figure that, along with the fencing would stop this from appearing on RP, so I canned it. I like it though... obstructions and all

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Old 09-10-2007, 04:11 AM   #5
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Interestingly bizarre topic! But here are three of mine:

- Originally rejected for Foreground Clutter; overturned on appeal:
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- My first ever rail photo:
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- I wish those trees and that pole weren't there:
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:20 AM   #6
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Okay, so the Geeps arent that covered up, but I thought it was neat to see them squeeze by the small brush...or maybe I'm just wierd!
Put me down as weird (I'm sure some of you already have) too. I don't care what the setting may be, anytime I can see SOO GP9s is good.

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You could also say that the leader was obstructing all the other, good looking units. Too bad you got that leading especially since any of the other units look 10x better.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:00 PM   #7
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- I wish those trees and that pole weren't there:
http://paulhamus.rrpicturearchives.n...aspx?id=608364
Embrace the trees and the poles! That's the point of this topic, using otherwise natural or manmade 'barriers' of photography to your advantage.

Thanks for the responses so far let's keep the ball rolling!
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This one came to my mind first, will check for others.
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This one came to my mind first, will check for others.
That was the picture that first came to mind while reading Andrew's opening comments.
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While first rejected for out of level (and it was a pain to get level) it does have some forground clutter.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:37 AM   #11
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While first rejected for out of level (and it was a pain to get level) it does have some forground clutter.
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Yeah, but that shot is awesome!
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:28 AM   #12
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I have several as well
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Rejected first for obstruction..I appealed and won
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I guess I do this to add depth to the scenes

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Old 09-11-2007, 04:20 AM   #13
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Obstructions I think is what '2 was asking for, not necessarily stuff in front of the engine : )

Here's the first one that comes to my mind (I wonder why):
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I have nothing that comes close, poles be damned.
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Never mind crowds Mitch, how about a WHOLE WALL ?

Or you always have the UK railfans tradition of a "Seminar"
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:50 AM   #15
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Looking through my personal collection I didn't find lots of foreground clutter, but plenty of bad lighting! Here are 2 that stood out to me the most I guess. The first of the bridge was not a great shot anyway and there have been others on RP that got much better pics from this angle before, but I though it was kind of interesting with the big tree growing into view. The second shot I was trying to frame the train between the signals, but it had very bad image quality, I assume mostly because I was shooting through a chain link fence with very small holes, and while it's true the camera won't focus on the fence it will degrade quality. Neat topic and fun to see other people's creative work!
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Here are a few of mine. Living in the northeast gives me plenty of poles, trees, and shrubs to work with for these types of shots.

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In this one, I was setting up for a vertical with the locomotive passing the buildings. I used the trees on the top of the photo as a frame, but I also had to deal with some shrubs along the tracks. Since they were in the shade, I was able to blend them in with the NS unit leading (Another reason why I like photographing NS!).



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You can't talk about obstructions without some mention of bridge shots. This one is from three or four feet above the level of the river, and I needed to work with the top part of the bridge to get the shot I was looking for.




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Finally, when setting up for a shot of an outbound Strasburg train, I saw an old car on display and I knew that I had to work it into my photo. I also wanted to include the lamppost, but I needed to make sure that it didn't dominate the shot. After spending some time trying out different angles, this was the final result.
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Nice to see more people contributing to the thread, however, Mitch was is correct, I meant actual obstructions in front of the subject, literally. I'll have more examples of mine tonight, hopefully.
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Great thread, AB. I forget about the Off Topic forum being here since it isn't in the drop down with the others. Here are 2 of my foreground clutter shots.

#1 is East Broad Top #15 returning to Orbisonia Station earlier this summer.

#2 is Amtrak's EB Lake Shore Lmt. EB past the Lake Shore Railway Hist. Society in North East, PA. I now realize that this shot is by no means RPesque for other reasons too, but I have to say that it is one of my personnal favorites anyway because of the story behind it. Kinda fits in your Bonding With The High Iron article.
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Well here is a few that I dug up.

Photo 1: is the BN's San Poil local just outside Curlew, WA

Photo 2: is the BAR 360 with some grass framework. I didnt notice the blade of grass in the middle when i was taking the pic of i would have taken it out.

photo 3: One of the steel bridges on the old SP&S mainline to Spokane as taken from my boat.

Photo 4: The San Poil local getting nere Republic, WA in the evening light.
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Here are my two contributions:

Photo #1 - taken June 30th, 2007 at Tobyhanna, Pa. during one of Steamtown's rare all-day trips to the Delaware Water Gap behind CP 4-6-2 #2317. Just took it because "it was there", but wound up liking it anyway.

Photo #2 - Baldwin 2-8-0 #40 departing town on the New Hope & Ivyland a few days earlier. Have to go back and get this one again when the sun is in a better angle.

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Is this foreground clutter or is it capturing the overall scene,warts and all?
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After yesterdays railfanning, I have a shot which definitely fits the spirit of this thread!

There I was, railfanning in the desert on a perfect day. As the sun began to set, I'd lined up a beautiful shot...with one major problem. I needed to shoot over some Joshua trees. I tried cropping out the trees, but it just puts the train too close to the bottom of the frame for RP's taste. I'll have to scout to see if there may be a better clearing to shoot from...or clear cut the forest!
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Think I'd need a bit more than a stepladder...however there are some high tension powerlines right behind me I could try if I got desperate!
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I didn't think that I had anything to add to this thread until I remembered this photo I took for Valentine's Day . . . .
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