Old 05-13-2014, 03:08 PM   #1
Mark T
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 92
Default PEQ help required

http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...97&key=3917024

I'd already fixed a slight colour cast and increased the exposure following earlier rejections but now PEQ....

Any ideas?
__________________
My Railpictures.net

My flickr
Mark T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 04:05 PM   #2
CSX1702
Senior Member
 
CSX1702's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,265
Default

PEQ is usually an end-all rejection. The only thing you can do now is appeal.
__________________
Derek

Flickr

Out Of Place Album
CSX1702 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 04:12 PM   #3
bigbassloyd
Senior Member
 
bigbassloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hilldale, West Virginia
Posts: 3,383
Default

The sky has a speckled appearance, the exposure is imbalanced due to the light sources, the contrast needs a big boost, the color still needs a small adjustment, and the support on the right is pulling your eye towards it.

I have to agree with the screener here.

Loyd L.
__________________
I may not be the greatest railroad photographer ever, but I'm certainly a much nicer person.

American Rails dot com - A fantastic website with tons of information and photographs related to American railroads and locomotives.
bigbassloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 06:29 PM   #4
John West
Senior Curmudgeon
 
John West's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mill Valley, CA
Posts: 1,070
Cool

It's as good as a lot of the night shots here but obviously the screener didn't like it for whatever reason. Personally I would agree with the screener, it is a nice picture but doesn't really have enough visual interest to standout. I doubt that it can be fixed. C'est la vie.
__________________
John West
See my pix here and
here and here
John West is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 07:32 PM   #5
JRMDC
Senior Member
 
JRMDC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 11,191
Default

As a person who is a fan of catenary shots, I have to agree with PEQ here. The lines are a jumble and the station is obscured.

But then, I am not a fan of streak shots, so that part of the composition doesn't do much more me; it does more for others, I presume.
__________________
My RP pix are here.
My Flickr pix are here.

My commentaries on rail pictures are in my blog.

RP Photo Albums:
Cabooses
Engine Details
Farm and Train
Plumes!
Railroad Details
Signal Details
Switchstand Shots
JRMDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 10:34 PM   #6
miningcamper1
Senior Member
 
miningcamper1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 925
Default

Hello! Is anybody paying attention?
Why did MarkT need to fix and resubmit on several issues on an image that's not going to be accepted?
miningcamper1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2014, 11:57 PM   #7
Mgoldman
Senior Member
 
Mgoldman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,569
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CSX1702 View Post
PEQ is usually an end-all rejection. The only thing you can do now is appeal.
Or re-edit. Cropping can completely change a PEQ.

Like Janusz stated - the station is pretty well obscured and "foreground clutter" might have been a good rejection to add.

Still - I find the blown out lights and detail most distracting. I wonder if you were to crop out all the lights to the left and the two starbursts to the right, if maybe it would be at least as acceptable as others already in the database.

Maybe drop the exposure down - darken it a bit, too.

It would've been awesome to catch a train in the catenary opening - I know I've passed on edits of shots I've taken where Amtrak or NJT failed me.

/Mitch
Mgoldman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2014, 12:35 AM   #8
troy12n
Senior Member
 
troy12n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 5,300
Default

Too much POLE
__________________
My RP.net photos
troy12n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2014, 01:30 AM   #9
miningcamper1
Senior Member
 
miningcamper1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 925
Default

HG is right- nothing has changed.
Since admin reads all the posts (didn't they just say so?), they have seen the multitude of complaints about a string of fixable rejections followed by a kiss of death rejection.
Obviously, Chris, you're still turning off contributors by doing this.
miningcamper1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2014, 05:45 PM   #10
Ron Flanary
Senior Member
 
Ron Flanary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Big Stone Gap, VA
Posts: 1,327
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T View Post
http://www.railpictures.net/viewreje...97&key=3917024

I'd already fixed a slight colour cast and increased the exposure following earlier rejections but now PEQ....

Any ideas?
PEQ means the screener thinks you have bad breath, mutated genes, a troubled family life, run with a bad crowd of friends, low self-esteem, the heartbreak of psoriasis and you don't believe in Jesus. It's virtually impossible to recover from all that. I would let this one go and move on (although I thought it was a nice shot...and I would certainly upload it to my Flickr account if it were me. ).
Ron Flanary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2014, 06:13 PM   #11
CSX1702
Senior Member
 
CSX1702's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Flanary View Post
PEQ means the screener thinks you have bad breath, mutated genes, a troubled family life, run with a bad crowd of friends, low self-esteem, the heartbreak of psoriasis and you don't believe in Jesus.
And they couldn't put that all into one abbreviation...so: PEQ.
__________________
Derek

Flickr

Out Of Place Album
CSX1702 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2014, 06:18 PM   #12
Holloran Grade
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: In the California Republic
Posts: 2,774
Exclamation

Quote:
Originally Posted by miningcamper1 View Post
hello! Is anybody paying attention?
Why did markt need to fix and resubmit on several issues on an image that's not going to be accepted?
Quote:
Originally Posted by miningcamper1 View Post
hg is right- nothing has changed.
Business as usual........

Last edited by Holloran Grade; 05-14-2014 at 06:20 PM.
Holloran Grade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 12:01 AM   #13
JimThias
Senior Member
 
JimThias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 9,691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by miningcamper1 View Post
HG is right- nothing has changed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holloran Grade View Post
Business as usual........
JimThias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 05:56 AM   #14
MagnumForce
Senior Member
 
MagnumForce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 602
Default

Speaking of PEQ I had no idea aesthetic could be spelled esthetic before Rp.
__________________
-Brent Kneebush
Defiance, Ohio
MagnumForce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 07:18 AM   #15
Mark T
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 92
Default

Thanks all for the tips. Luckily I've got several shots with different framing / exposure / angles etc so I'll try a few different ones taking the constructive criticism on board.
__________________
My Railpictures.net

My flickr
Mark T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 10:28 AM   #16
Mark T
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 92
Default

Bingo....

Image © MarkT
PhotoID: 481562
Photograph © MarkT
__________________
My Railpictures.net

My flickr
Mark T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 11:07 AM   #17
JimThias
Senior Member
 
JimThias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 9,691
Default

Now that one is a winner, Mark. Nice job.
JimThias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 11:09 AM   #18
JimThias
Senior Member
 
JimThias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 9,691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnumForce View Post
Speaking of PEQ I had no idea aesthetic could be spelled esthetic before Rp.
http://www.differencebetween.com/dif...-vs-esthetics/
JimThias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 02:38 PM   #19
wds
Senior Member
 
wds's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimThias View Post
Right, and considering where it's coming from this excerpt made perfect sense to me!

"In American countries, the spelling of aesthetics has been changed in much the same way as has been done for words like color, especially words that contain ae and oe in British English. Thus, aesthetic becomes esthetic that makes more sense for the Americans. Similarly, archaeology becomes archaeology to make it simpler and easier".
__________________
Click Here to view my photos at RailPictures.Net!
wds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 03:45 PM   #20
John West
Senior Curmudgeon
 
John West's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mill Valley, CA
Posts: 1,070
Smile

When I worked in London I would write out memos and letters in my American English and my secretary would translate them into British English. They always looked so much better after she had translated them.
__________________
John West
See my pix here and
here and here
John West is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 06:21 PM   #21
Firefighter1019
Senior Member
 
Firefighter1019's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 118
Default

Awesome Shot =) Agreed much better angle too. Congrads
Firefighter1019 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2014, 07:50 PM   #22
JimThias
Senior Member
 
JimThias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 9,691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wds View Post
Similarly, archaeology becomes archaeology to make it simpler and easier".
I noticed they screwed that up too.
JimThias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 02:54 AM   #23
Joe the Photog
Senior Member
 
Joe the Photog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 7,883
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by miningcamper1 View Post
Hello! Is anybody paying attention?
Why did MarkT need to fix and resubmit on several issues on an image that's not going to be accepted?
Because there is only one screener whose opinions have never changed and he sits around screwing with people for no real reason.

Oh, and photography isn't subjective ether.
__________________
Joe the Photog Dot Com
Joe the Photog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 01:03 PM   #24
Mberry
Senior Member
 
Mberry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lasalle, Qc
Posts: 605
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe the Photog View Post
Because there is only one screener whose opinions have never changed and he sits around screwing with people for no real reason.

Oh, and photography isn't subjective ether.
I used to think I was being paranoid, but I think this is really the case.
Mberry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 02:40 PM   #25
John West
Senior Curmudgeon
 
John West's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Mill Valley, CA
Posts: 1,070
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mberry View Post
I used to think I was being paranoid, but I think this is really the case.
The "RP syndrome", a common affliction among RP contributors.
__________________
John West
See my pix here and
here and here
John West is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.